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What If... Marty Just Did Something That Will Make You Love Him?

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1 minute ago, simmonsab said:

I never said Kalil was doing well. But, he was a decent name that DG could have picked up. He's definitely been inconsistent and "average at best" means that his best play has been average. He's not good at all, and wasn't a great signing. My point was we had some decent money to spend this offseason, unlike years with Hurney. 

He had decent money to spend and he blew it and he was not a decent name. I've said this before but if a team takes a tackle in the top 5 or 10 picks of the draft and the said tackle does not get a new contract from the team that drafted him you don't sign him period. Andrew Whitworth was cheaper, durable and plays at a much higher level until you can probably draft a tackle. Gettleman's undervalue of the tackle positions is a reason why I'm not a fan of his at all.

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1 minute ago, The Righteous Troll said:

He had decent money to spend and he blew it and he was not a decent name. I've said this before but if a team takes a tackle in the top 5 or 10 picks of the draft and the said tackle does not get a new contract from the team that drafted him you don't sign him period. Andrew Whitworth was cheaper, durable and plays at a much higher level until you can probably draft a tackle. Gettleman's undervalue of the tackle positions is a reason why I'm not a fan of his at all.

I agree with that...

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10 minutes ago, The Righteous Troll said:

I agree somewhat. Josh was WAY more valuable than the compensatory pick that the Panthers got for him. It's all about value in the draft but it was dumb to pull the tag period..I hoenstly thought Norman was in some legal trouble that had not gotten out yet as to why the tag was rescinded 

Can I have what your smoking. Matt Kalil is AWFUL compared to the money Gettleman paid him. He might as well paid Josh if he is gonna throw away money like Hurney was.

sorry dude ...i totally missed that... thought you were talking to me...the smoke got in my eyes...

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2 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

I'm looking at numbers...I never referred to Kalil...I was for paying josh..that's no secret... my question was about the comment on not having the money to go after decent FA...what is considered decent money for this purpose?

I know that question wasn't directed at me but it is a very interesting one for sure. I was actually not for paying Norman just let him play under the tag and draft Bradberry. Usually if your using your CAP money to sign free agents sometimes it means you suck  at drafting players. I can't really think of a big money free agent signing that has worked recently 

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6 minutes ago, The Righteous Troll said:

He had decent money to spend and he blew it and he was not a decent name. I've said this before but if a team takes a tackle in the top 5 or 10 picks of the draft and the said tackle does not get a new contract from the team that drafted him you don't sign him period. Andrew Whitworth was cheaper, durable and plays at a much higher level until you can probably draft a tackle. Gettleman's undervalue of the tackle positions is a reason why I'm not a fan of his at all.

Kalil has been the biggest contract we've signed in quite a while. Both GM's are pathetic -- I don't think there's an argument there. The point I was stating is at least Gettleman, somewhat, got us out of Cap Hell, which Hurney put us in. Then Hurney makes the ridiculous move of trading our best target, at the time. Although the Kalil signing hasn't (and probably won't) worked out, Gettleman still had more money than Hurney ever did. That's the biggest point I'm trying to make. 

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Just now, The Righteous Troll said:

I know that question wasn't directed at me but it is a very interesting one for sure. I was actually not for paying Norman just let him play under the tag and draft Bradberry. Usually if your using your CAP money to sign free agents sometimes it means you suck  at drafting players. I can't really think of a big money free agent signing that has worked recently 

interesting in looking back at the Hurney drafts leading up to the referenced paydays to Beason and Williams... they do show your point to be true...2009 and 2010  were more the reason for decline than the "cap hell" we enetered... 

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2 minutes ago, simmonsab said:

Kalil has been the biggest contract we've signed in quite a while. Both GM's are pathetic -- I don't think there's an argument there. The point I was stating is at least Gettleman, somewhat, got us out of Cap Hell, which Hurney put us in. Then Hurney makes the ridiculous move of trading our best target, at the time. Although the Kalil signing hasn't (and probably won't) worked out, Gettleman still had more money than Hurney ever did. That's the biggest point I'm trying to make. 

again, show the numbers for cap hell, what do you consider cap hell?

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1 minute ago, simmonsab said:

Kalil has been the biggest contract we've signed in quite a while. Both GM's are pathetic -- I don't think there's an argument there. The point I was stating is at least Gettleman, somewhat, got us out of Cap Hell, which Hurney put us in. Then Hurney makes the ridiculous move of trading our best target, at the time. Although the Kalil signing hasn't (and probably won't) worked out, Gettleman still had more money than Hurney ever did. That's the biggest point I'm trying to make. 

That proves my point even more as to why I'm glad Gettleman is gone. Throwing money at a bust for another team.

Gettleman did some good things and he was in "cap hell" so I judged him more on drafts so I'm not a fan at all

 

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4 minutes ago, simmonsab said:

Kalil has been the biggest contract we've signed in quite a while. Both GM's are pathetic -- I don't think there's an argument there. The point I was stating is at least Gettleman, somewhat, got us out of Cap Hell, which Hurney put us in. Then Hurney makes the ridiculous move of trading our best target, at the time. Although the Kalil signing hasn't (and probably won't) worked out, Gettleman still had more money than Hurney ever did. That's the biggest point I'm trying to make. 

more money...?

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