NFL investigation is NOT ending

[NanuqoftheNorth]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

All very plausible.

Gotta wonder if outside forces will put pressure on the league in the midst of this. Not great timing for this to all come out in the middle of the #metoo movement.

Yeap, containment will likely be difficult at this point.  Wouldn't be surprised if other owners are scrambling to cover up their own office misdeeds.  

[Woodie]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

All very plausible.

Gotta wonder if outside forces will put pressure on the league in the midst of this. Not great timing for this to all come out in the middle of the #metoo movement.

I think it's connected.  I believe anyone that has sniffed even the tiniest scent of sexual harassment is investigating right now. 

I'd bet that JJ mentioned to someone at SI about rumors he heard, but never had any factual knowledge of.  Either that, or someone that is/was associated with the team and had direct knowledge came forward with a tip.  Either way, without the #metoo movement, I doubt we'd have heard anything about this.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Yeap, containment will likely be difficult at this point.  Wouldn't be surprised if other owners are scrambling to cover up their own office misdeeds.  

Lotta non-disclosure agreements might be getting written right now.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Lotta non-disclosure agreements might be getting written right now.

The worm has turned.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Woodie said:

I think it's connected.  I believe anyone that has sniffed even the tiniest scent of sexual harassment is investigating right now. 

I'd bet that JJ mentioned to someone at SI about rumors he heard, but never had any factual knowledge of.  Either that, or someone that is/was associated with the team and had direct knowledge came forward with a tip.  Either way, without the #metoo movement, I doubt we'd have heard anything about this.

All very plausible.

From the tone of the stories, at least some of it was going on right out in the open.  And there have been rumors of Richardson going a little off the rails for a while now.  I'd say it's very plausible that he just lost his filters and became the proverbial creepy old pervert (not good for someone in a power position).

That said, the fact that he was said to "groom" women gradually makes him look more like a predator than just a creepy old man, so who knows?

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The worm has turned.

Might not be the best metaphor to use right now...

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Might not be the best metaphor to use right now...

Get your mind out of the gutter or report to H.R.  

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Get your mind out of the gutter or report to H.R.

Quit staring at my jeans!

[Woodie]

4 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Yeap, containment will likely be difficult at this point.  Wouldn't be surprised if other owners are scrambling to cover up their own office misdeeds.  

Yep, just like half of Hollywood is still scared to death that they will be the next to fall.  This may be cynical, but the adage that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" is true.  And I just can't see this many ultra wealthy and powerful men, most of whom also were raised in a different time and social environment, all being upstanding citizens and just solid businessmen that keep their noses clean.  There has to be a lot more of this type of thing going on in the upper levels of the NFL, and there are likely some owners with a little flutter in their stomachs right now. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Woodie said:

Yep, just like half of Hollywood is still scared to death that they will be the next to fall.  This may be cynical, but the adage that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" is true.  And I just can't see this many ultra wealthy and powerful men, most of whom also were raised in a different time and social environment, all being upstanding citizens and just solid businessmen that keep their noses clean.  There has to be a lot more of this type of thing going on in the upper levels of the NFL, and there are likely some owners with a little flutter in their stomachs right now. 

Jones and Irsay some to mind.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Just now, Woodie said:

Yep, just like half of Hollywood is still scared to death that they will be the next to fall.  This may be cynical, but the adage that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" is true.  And I just can't see this many ultra wealthy and powerful men, most of whom also were raised in a different time and social environment, all being upstanding citizens and just solid businessmen that keep their noses clean.  There has to be a lot more of this type of thing going on in the upper levels of the NFL, and there are likely some owners with a little flutter in their stomachs right now. 

A lot of comments that would have been considered complementary to women a few decades ago are now grounds for administrative action or termination. 

Even by those antiquated standards, J.R. appears to have gone beyond the realm of decency.  Decades of deference by his office subordinates likely contributed to his sense of invulnerability.

[Woodie]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

All very plausible.

From the tone of the stories, at least some of it was going on right out in the open.  And there have been rumors of Richardson going a little off the rails for a while now.  I'd say it's very plausible that he just lost his filters and became the proverbial creepy old pervert (not good for someone in a power position).

That said, the fact that he was said to "groom" women gradually makes him look more like a predator than just a creepy old man, so who knows?

This is the saddest part.  Just like everything we've heard with the Hollywood thing, victims are often intimidated and too fearful to come forward.  Many are afraid of losing a job they can't afford to lose, and other don't think anyone would believe them and they would be persecuted and ridiculed for coming forward, so they stay silent.  But with so many becoming more embolden to say what has been happening, the potential for a cascade of sexual harassment allegations within the NFL is very real.

[Woodie]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Jones and Irsay some to mind.

Snyder wouldn't surprise me either.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

A lot of comments that would have been considered complementary to women a few decades ago are now grounds for administrative action or termination. 

Even by those antiquated standards, J.R. appears to have gone beyond the realm of decency.  Decades of deference by his office subordinates likely contributed to his sense of invulnerability.

Yeah.  Even 20 years ago, I don't think it was okay to ask women if you could shave their legs.