Annual Around the NFL Thread

[Mr. Scot]

News about another former Panther, and it doesn't sound good.

 

[Mr. Scot]

Sad news out of Denver too, where they've announced that one of their front office guys, Tom Heckert, has passed away.

Heckert was GM of the Eagles some years back.

[LinvilleGorge]

It looks like the Gettleman/OBJ showdown is gettiing going. Reports that the Giants are offering under $16M per. Other reports stating Giants willing to make him the highest paid WR in the NFL, but that my just be in terms of new overall money, not a per year figure.

I think we all know that this is likely to get ugly.

 

[Mr. Scot]

Other teams have OL issues too...

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It looks like the Gettleman/OBJ showdown is gettiing going. Reports that the Giants are offering under $16M per. Other reports stating Giants willing to make him the highest paid WR in the NFL, but that my just be in terms of new overall money, not a per year figure.

I think we all know that this is likely to get ugly.

I'd be pretty tempted to trade him.

I don't doubt there's a team out there somewhere who's fool enough to give him a blank check.

[Mr. Scot]

And this on a former potential Panthers owner...

 

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd be pretty tempted to trade him.

I don't doubt there's a team out there somewhere who's fool enough to give him a blank check.

Honestly, I would be too. With their very uncertain future at QB I'm not sure it's a wise investment to dump mega bucks into a WR.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, I would be too. With their very uncertain future at QB I'm not sure it's a wise investment to dump mega bucks into a WR.

And let's face it, he's a pain in the ass.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And let's face it, he's a pain in the ass.

Seems like that's part for the course for an elite WR. Fitzgerald is about the only notable exception that comes to mind in the last decade or so.

[backINblack28]

Cardinals starting C lost for the year..

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24302887/arizona-cardinals-center-aq-shipley-tears-acl-done-season

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, bull123 said:

This is a guy that gettleman should dump like yesterday....will probably sign him to a mega deal

Of course if he does dump him, you'll probably claim it was the wrong move.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, bull123 said:

I just might 

That's the kind of move that makes a statement.

Specifically, it says "I'm not very bright".

[Mr. Scot]

David Tepper might not appreciate this, but I'm sure some here will.

Steelers unveil retractable rook for Heinz Field

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

Hue Jackson and Todd Haley are both known for being a--holes, so when Haley joined Jackson's staff in Cleveland, a lot of people said that could be a train wreck waiting to happen.

Looks like the train might just be starting down the track.

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At a meeting led by coach Hue Jackson, V.P. of player health and development Joe Sheehan recited a list of the players who would be missing periodic practices with the goal of keeping them healthy. Then, new running backs coach Freddie Kitchens explained, diplomatically and tactfully, the importance of having as many players available for practice as possible.

Said Jackson in response: “I think, for the new coaches here, we’re not taking guys out because they’re special or anything like that. We’re taking them out for preventative measures and normally the team has understood that. . . . Duke [Johnson] has had a history of pulling [muscles] and if we end up losing him or missing him, it doesn’t help us. Guys, this is all for preventative measures.”

Then, new offensive coordinator Todd Haley chimed in, far less diplomatically or tactfully.

“I have an opinion on it,” Haley said. “We need to get so much done, you know? And I know I said that to you and we joke about it, but if we live in our fears, I mean our team has to get mentally tougher and be able to fight through the sh-t that we’ve gotta fight through. We’ve got to change this drastically and if we’ve got guys that haven’t done sh-t sitting around doing nothing, you know, I just don’t know how we’re going to do it.”

That didn’t sit all that well with Jackson, who quickly reminded everyone in the room who runs it.

“I used to sit in the same chair you guys sit in and I used to feel the same way,” Jackson said. “I just wanted to kill them, OK? Until all of a sudden I sat in this chair and then they’re not there, and you don’t get them to practice, and you can’t get them through, and then you don’t have them for three weeks. And I’m not living in my fears, that’s real. And I think we all can appreciate that.”

Jackson a few moments later revisited the reality that he’s in charge.

“Guys, listen, I’m excited about what you’re doing,” Jackson said. “I’m going to say it again. But the chair I sit in is a little different then the chair you guys sit in. I get to watch from a different lens. OK, and I think you guys can all respect that. At the end of the day, I get to drive this bus, and I’m going to get it the way I want it. That’s period. That’s just how it works. OK? Al [Saunders] taught me a long time ago. What is it, Al? Give it to me.”

“It’s your team, you can do whatever the hell you want,” Saunders said.

“When it’s your team, you can do whatever the hell you want,” Jackson said. “OK? So this one’s mine. So that’s just the way it’s going to be, and that is of respect of everybody in this room. But this is how we do it, and we’ll always have these kind of discussions. Because I’m only trying to make it better. If there’s something we can do better, we’re going to do it better. It’s just that simple.”

 Hard Knocks debut foreshadows potential dysfunction

Florio points out (and it's definitely worth noting) that all this happened with TV Cameras running.

I know a lot of folks wanted Jackson over Shula as Chudzinski's replacement (though most now seem to agree Shurmur would have been the better choice) but knowing what we know of Rivera's personality and Jackson's, I just have a really hard time seeing that pairing work out.

Jackson and Rivera might not have been the disaster film that Jackson and Haley have the potential to be, but it would have at least had the potential to be a really bad movie of the week.