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Panthers are 5-12 vs NFC South since 2016


Jeremy Igo

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Everything went to shyt after the super bowl. It was after 2015, the other South teams made moves that would position themselves to handle us; while the saints did that plus make moves that have them dominating the league.

We’ve got to blow this thing up, and build a team that will compete in the south. Build up both lines, and continue to add offensive playmakers.

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Issue is Panthers match up horribly vs. Saints & Falcons, and that’s 25% of schedule every year.

Saints are just flat out better in general (and perhaps full strength Falcons roster is as well), but both have offenses built to beat the Panthers downfield and can counter the Panthers’ only dynamic offensive players (Jones is a decent counter to both Cam in containment and CmC in coverage, while the Saints take something more of a team approach). A decent draft or two can rectify that, however, as could a more forward-thinking coach.

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