Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Ha Ha, Flowers...


top dawg

Recommended Posts

No this isn't a laugh about flowers, it's about realistic free agent targets to help our defense. 

In my opinion, our number one target in free agency should be Ha Ha Clinton-Dix. We need a young, experienced safety either with or without Eric Reid, and Ha Ha should be affordable and provide good production for years to come. 

Trey Flowers isn't the top Edge as far as sacks go, but he gets good marks for his proficiency. He consistently gets pressure and would make a nice addition to Addison on the other side.

Short, Poe, Addison and Flowers should be enough for a decent O-line.

Jackson, Bradberry, Reid, and Clinton-Dix should provide enough playmakers for a good defensive backfield.

With the working material of Obada or Cox, Haynes, Gaulden and LB Carter, we may have the seeds for a pretty good defense if we can land these two younger vets.

If nothing else, it would allow us to feel better about going into the draft, and possibly open up some options. Both should be affordable and may provide some value given their bodies of work thus far because they can get better (in arguably better situations).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wouldn’t say Clinton- Dix is  young, he just turned 27 but he’s in his prime at 27. I would be happy if we signed him. Likewise Flowers. 

  Regardless of that we still need to get younger, especially the DE rotation. I wouldn’t object to drafting a safety either but Gaulden’s presence may preclude that chance.

 I was looking at RD 2-3 DEs that could be possibilities. I like Joe Jackson, I’m not keen on Anthony Nelson and I would be ok with Ximines from round 3. Gotta keep trying.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

I wouldn’t say Clinton- Dix is  young, he just turned 27 but he’s in his prime at 27. I would be happy if we signed him. Likewise Flowers. 

  Regardless of that we still need to get younger, especially the DE rotation. I wouldn’t object to drafting a safety either but Gaulden’s presence may preclude that chance.

 I was looking at RD 2-3 DEs that could be possibilities. I like Joe Jackson, I’m not keen on Anthony Nelson and I would be ok with Ximines from round 3. Gotta keep trying.

27 is straight up cradle robbing compared to what we typically field at safety. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

23 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

I wouldn’t say Clinton- Dix is  young, he just turned 27 but he’s in his prime at 27. I would be happy if we signed him. Likewise Flowers. 

  Regardless of that we still need to get younger, especially the DE rotation. I wouldn’t object to drafting a safety either but Gaulden’s presence may preclude that chance.

 I was looking at RD 2-3 DEs that could be possibilities. I like Joe Jackson, I’m not keen on Anthony Nelson and I would be ok with Ximines from round 3. Gotta keep trying.

According to Google (and several sites), Ha Ha just turned 26 on December 21st. Flowers will be 26 in August. They are both arguably just entering their prime.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I very seriously doubt that we'll invest any significant resources into the safety positions with Rivera returning. Those positions just don't matter to Ron. 

I do think we'll sign a decent FA DE though.

Ron isn't running the show. You watch!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 minutes ago, top dawg said:

According to Google (and several sites), Ha Ha just turned 26 on December 21st. Flowers will be 26 in August. They are both arguably just entering their prime.

Yup, you’re right. Another question then. Who would be your ideal (realistic) starting duo at safety for the Panthers next season?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Remind me of when in Hurney's history we've made significant investments in the safety positions.

It's a new day, with a new owner, with jobs on the line.

Eric Reid is a start. Minter wasn't the worst safety.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Seoul_Panther said:

Yup, you’re right. Another question then. Who would be your ideal (realistic) starting duo at safety for the Panthers next season?

Probably want to ask that question, at least in regards to being realistic, in a couple of months, but Reid at SS and Clinton-Dix at FS is within the realm of reality depending upon what transpires.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, top dawg said:

It's a new day, with a new owner, with jobs on the line.

Eric Reid is a start. Minter wasn't the worst safety.

 

If Tepper wanted a significant departure from the norms of Hurney and Rivera then they would've been replaced. If his idea of change is to try to force known commodities into changing how they do their jobs then we're fuged.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Right, so basically what I said in my first post about this last night. Tepper needs to use that big wallet of his in one of the few ways it can be used in the NFL given the cap.   Give Scourton a bigger signing bonus but not a fully guaranteed deal. Everyone wins in that scenario as if Scourton is smart and hires good money people, he'll take that bigger signing bonus and use it to make more money in the end over the next 4 years than if he just had his fully guaranteed deal and a smaller signing bonus.
    • It is all confusing and layered. SB is the cash you get very soon within weeks or in simple terms, its what you get to sign the paper work. Players and agents can agree on contract but what to "wait" to sign......teams don't like that cause you can "Carlos Boozer" yourself. In order to get that ink dry, while keeping the contract the same, portion it as a bonus to "sign" and get the funds with ________ .   * But Ive seen worded contracts that split the SB or a 20% to a later date. The beans counters can fill in the details about why certain dates are better and save the team money.. Theres tricks to the trade and accounting is full of them.    Ugh another big layer, is SB can be used to manipulate cap and players. Ill try to give a example that makes enough sense. Believe it or not having a owner like Tepper is a cheat code for this. He has cash in hand, where as Mark Davis had problem making pay roll and had to move the team to Vegas....... Tepper can give you 100,000,000 SB right now and the team can spread out the cap hit. Another owner doesn't have or want to give the player 100,000,000 in cash, but offered the same guaranteed contract in roster bonuses fully guaranteed over the next few years........ Which one do you want??? Everyone wants the money now, not before another inflation waves hits in 2 years. So it does 'pay" to have a owner like tepper that's able to have real cash on hand, while it also works GREAT for cap help. Heres a good video, if you can stand coked up pat and mask look-a-like AJ    
×
×
  • Create New...