My Current View of our Roster Update- I added my roster projection on Page 7 with FA and some Draft Picks.

[Toomers]

35 minutes ago, Matt62881 said:

Fuller had a down year I Kansas city, he might play a one year prove it deal, out of the guys I mentioned the only ones that will cost are Bradberry and Tre. The rest of them can go if they want too much, Tre was a fine FS and Bradberry while not top 5 should squeak in the top 10 and be paid as such. You cant replace Luke but shaq did manage 109 stops beside Luke's 144, not bad. Shaq I'm guessing will get more like 140 this year being the features MLB. He shouldn't see as many olineman in his face either with proper DT play. Haynes and Miller will be rotational, let's say we dont keep Irvin, for passing downs. Burns and Addison would be our primary ends but yes we could use someone else here, wouldn't mind bringing west back cheap for running downs. There are other things to be ironed out but this roster would be a start. Oh and I forgot Obada on the edge.

  So now what’s the plan if you’re letting go of Addison, McCoy, Irvin, who’s replacing them. 
 

And how many tackles Shaq had/has is of little concern. Where he’s making them is. And are you getting rid of Addison or not? It’s probably 10M/ year to sign him. Or are we letting everyone but a JB and Tre go? All these decisions would have to be made? And you’re creating a new hole with every move now. 
 

[Matt62881]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

And you still dont address the oline.  The Achilles heel of this team.  And man, I am not sure what team you are watching but we absolutely need help at wr. 

Even in your best case scenario draft and FA we are still paper thin and weak on defense. 

Like brizz just said, we need to burn this puppy down and start anew.  And that doesnt include cam.  Sorry, it just doesnt.

If we are burning it down then I agree about Cam but to say our wrs suck? Did you watch DJ Moore, hes easily our best wr since SS89 and Curtis is fine as our #2. If you had read my initial post I adressed Center with our 2nd pick and a guard can be found later or Dayley can play LG. Offense isnt the concern imo, its defense, namely the D-Line, wich is why I'm applying so much to it.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

  So now what’s the plan if you’re letting go of Addison, McCoy, Irvin, who’s replacing them. 
 

And how many tackles Shaq had/has is of little concern. Where he’s making them is. And are you getting rid of Addison or not? It’s probably 10M/ year to sign him. Or are we letting everyone but a JB and Tre go? All these decisions would have to be made? And you’re creating a new hole with every move now. 
 

And he still hasnt address the oline. 

[Matt62881]

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  So now what’s the plan if you’re letting go of Addison, McCoy, Irvin, who’s replacing them. 
 

And how many tackles Shaq had/has is of little concern. Where he’s making them is. And are you getting rid of Addison or not? It’s probably 10M/ year to sign him. Or are we letting everyone but a JB and Tre go? All these decisions would have to be made? And you’re creating a new hole with every move now. 
 

I would think the market for Addison would be less then that but I could be wrong, he would be a must sign. McCoy is only a sign if he comes cheap enough, as I believe we need to double dip DT. Ideally D. Brown and Leki if he makes it to the 3rd.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Matt62881 said:

If we are burning it down then I agree about Cam but to say our wrs suck? Did you watch DJ Moore, hes easily our best wr since SS89 and Curtis is fine as our #2. If you had read my initial post I adressed Center with our 2nd pick and a guard can be found later or Dayley can play LG. Offense isnt the concern imo, its defense, namely the D-Line, wich is why I'm applying so much to it.

I never said the wr suck.  We need more depth.  Samuels is okay.  nothing special.  So now we are relying on a 2nd rd rookie center to step in and be the navigator?  You keep saying so and so can be found later.  No dude thats how we been rolling for years and it hasnt worked.  We have no idea if daley (a 6th rd pick) will work at guard but we sure as hell know he doesnt work at LT. 

 

Offense isnt the concern?  Sweet Jesus man.  I think I am tapping out of this with you because its clear we are not watching the same team. 

[Matt62881]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

And he still hasnt address the oline. 

You didn't read I just did above, center in the second, a 1 year deal to a vet like jason Peter's , move dayley to guard or draft one late.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Matt62881 said:

I would think the market for Addison would be less then that but I could be wrong, he would be a must sign. McCoy is only a sign if he comes cheap enough, as I believe we need to double dip DT. Ideally D. Brown and Leki if he makes it to the 3rd.

So far you have 2 dlinemen and 1 center in the draft for the first 3 rounds and we still dont have a LT. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Matt62881 said:

You didn't read I just did above, center in the second, a 1 year deal to a vet like jason Peter's , move dayley to guard or draft one late.

How is a one year deal going to work dude?  How does that fit teppers plan of long term stability?  you are clearly not seeing the big picture here.  Clearly

[Matt62881]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I never said the wr suck.  We need more depth.  Samuels is okay.  nothing special.  So now we are relying on a 2nd rd rookie center to step in and be the navigator?  You keep saying so and so can be found later.  No dude thats how we been rolling for years and it hasnt worked.  We have no idea if daley (a 6th rd pick) will work at guard but we sure as hell know he doesnt work at LT. 

 

Offense isnt the concern?  Sweet Jesus man.  I think I am tapping out of this with you because its clear we are not watching the same team. 

Dude our depth at wr is fine, not even near the top of our concerns, the oline is the only issue and qb if Kyle Allen is there.

[Matt62881]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

How is a one year deal going to work dude?  How does that fit teppers plan of long term stability?  you are clearly not seeing the big picture here.  Clearly

It works as a stop gap until either Little improves or we draft another LT. You want to just call little a bust and throw in the towel?

[Matt62881]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

How is a one year deal going to work dude?  How does that fit teppers plan of long term stability?  you are clearly not seeing the big picture here.  Clearly

You seem to be one of those guys that thinks all pros should be at every position, it doesnt work that way.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Matt62881 said:

It works as a stop gap until either Little improves or we draft another LT. You want to just call little a bust and throw in the towel?

He is not a starter right now.  Man again you are missing the picture here.  Tepper doesnt want this stop gap crap.  He wants a system.  This isnt a system you are describing, its throwing poo against the wall and praying.  Why would Rhule want to work like that?  It makes no sense.

 

And you are operating under the cloudy premise that Cam comes back 100% healthy and is still the runner and threat he was 3(?) years ago. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Matt62881 said:

You seem to be one of those guys that thinks all pros should be at every position, it doesnt work that way.

All pros no.  Serviceable Left tackles that dont get our qb killed yes.  None of which are on the roster.  Please dont try and kid yourself and make an argument for little or Daley.

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, Matt62881 said:

It works as a stop gap until either Little improves or we draft another LT. You want to just call little a bust and throw in the towel?

And not to mention after this "stop gap" year we are going to have to pay Cam a lot of money.