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General Friday Draft Discussion - Rounds 2-3


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11 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

Yeesh  Meinerz would been an insane value at our last pick in the 3rd. 

Hopefully the tremble move isn't a Hurney esque project 

We should have just taken him.

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2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

We typically carry 9-10 OL so two more would have been perfect. Out of that list, only Moton is a solid starter. Paradis improved a lot last year. That’s it. Daley can barely stay healthy and Miller and Scott are easily replaced. Elflein and Erving are big question marks who’ve played very poorly before. We are just hoping they play well.

Meinerz and Brown could have easily beaten out Miller, Scott and Daley and maybe cracked the starting lineup. Only Moton and Paradis have played well enough before to ensure their starting spots. You are way overvaluing the rest of the OL. They are JAGs.

The problem is that your expectation is unrealistic. Obviously they are committed to giving Erving and Elflein chances to be contributors. They wouldn't have bothered giving them multi-year contracts if that wasn't the case. I won't be surprised if they take another OL, probably in the 6th, but loading three guys in the 3rd was never, ever going to happen. Nor should it. 

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10 minutes ago, Smittymoose said:

Now people getting lathered up over a D3 guy they've probably never seen play a real game, lol

How much of Senior Bowl week did you watch? No guarantees but he looked fantastic in the practices and got a lot of kudos. There were quite a few OL that a bunch of us draft guys loved in here from the 2019 Senior Bowl. We took Little over some of those studs and we fuged up big time. I hope this isn’t like that.

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1 hour ago, rico6 said:

The whole “people freaked over Luke” pick is the most revisionist claim on this site LOL.

idk where you’re going with Kalil

My point is we had Jon Beason when we took Luke and we had just signed Justin Hartwig the year before when we took Kalil.  J-Stew when we had D-Lo. 

You don't pass on good talent just because at that exact moment you don't "need" it.

 

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3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Funny, you like the dude, so he's automatically a starter. Meinerz would have pushed for a starting guard spot and then take over for Paradis next year.  But hey, he is a part-time player immediately, so that's a win!

What? I said part-time TE, which is really the worst case scenario. As for Meinerz, that's counting on a lot for a guy to push for a starting job making a huge leap from D3 to the NFL. Maybe he pans out. He's definitely not worth getting upset over. 

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This draft is a crap shoot more than it looks. I dont understand the excitement over picks. Outside of horn and Marshall  everything is questionable. We took a OT who dominated lower level competition, who knows what he will look like against all pro DEs and taking a utility TE over some good guards who flew right off the board.  Not labeling it a dud but everything remains to be seen till they are on the field.

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1 minute ago, Smittymoose said:

What? I said part-time TE, which is really the worst case scenario. As for Meinerz, that's counting on a lot for a guy to push for a starting job making a huge leap from D3 to the NFL. Maybe he pans out. He's definitely not worth getting upset over. 

You obviously have not studied the guy.  He dominates.

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1 minute ago, stbugs said:

How much of Senior Bowl week did you watch? No guarantees but he looked fantastic in the practices and got a lot of kudos. There were quite a few OL that a bunch of us draft guys loved in here from the 2019 Senior Bowl. We took Little over some of those studs and we fuged up big time. I hope this isn’t like that.

Yes, I read the practice reports. Looking good is better than looking bad, but it doesn't mean much in an exhibition game and the practices leading up to it. 

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Just now, Smittymoose said:

The problem is that your expectation is unrealistic. Obviously they are committed to giving Erving and Elflein chances to be contributors. They wouldn't have bothered giving them multi-year contracts if that wasn't the case. I won't be surprised if they take another OL, probably in the 6th, but loading three guys in the 3rd was never, ever going to happen. Nor should it. 

Do you just assume everything the team does is perfect? We’re you saying wouldn’t have traded up for Little if we didn’t think he was good too?

We’ve signed a lot of shitty free agents the past few years. Love the commitment but that doesn’t mean they are good. Neither of them has been a quality OL in their entire career. They’ve been bad to ok. That’s it’s.

Considering the talent available and the state of our current OL, not hope but actual performance, we absolutely should have gone all in on OL. We drafted 7 defensive players last year, drafting 3 OL after trading down to get extra picks isn't some crazy idea in a draft that was deep at WR, CB and OL.

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