Stewart is a liability

[Lt Pinkerton]

Or I should say, the way we are using him makes him a liability. He is a great back, and I think he should see the ball a few times a game, but I don't think he should get the 10-15 carries he does over Deangelo. It's no secret that Williams gets better as the game goes on and does most of his magic in the second half (at least during the games that we are not behind and throwing every down) It seems like every game that Williams will rattle off a 12 yard run on first and ten and then check himself out for Stewart, only for Stewart to be stopped for two to four yards and all of a sudden Jake needs to throw the ball twice in order to convert. Our game against Miami was a prime example of this happening. Deangelo needs to get into a rhythm and when Stewie comes in after every good run it just hurts that rhythm.

Use him for what he is, a goal line and short-yardage situation back. Deangelo should be the one running on first down, and he should definitely be the one in the game on pass plays and on the draw plays. Stewart is a very good running back, but Deangelo needs more touches. He is our best player.

[megadeth078]

Take away pass attempts from Delhomme, not carries from Stewart.

/thread

[Lt Pinkerton]

Take away pass attempts from Delhomme, not carries from Stewart.

/thread

You can't /thread your own post.

While I agree we shouldn't throw as much, we have to have some semblance of a passing game or we aren't going to go anywhere. We may have won thursday night, but Fox knows that we needed to build on the success at Atlanta with Jake if we want to have a chance to make the playoffs. The 42 pass plays were inflated because of those last few drives where all we did was throw. (and we had to) I'm only pissed that Deangelo only got thirteen carries while he was playing incredibly. Put the ball in your best player's hands.

[rayzor]

keep the ball in the hands of your reliable playmakers and out of the hands of your incompetent ones.

[megadeth078]

keep the ball in the hands of your reliable playmakers (Deangelo) and out of the hands of your incompetent ones (Delhomme).

fixed for clarity

[Lt Pinkerton]

All I'm saying is that when your Running Back is picking up nine yards a clip he shouldn't have touches taken away by your other running back who is only picking up three yards a clip. Jake is obviously the real problem, but that has been beaten to death. This is another problem that needs to be fixed. They get about the same ratio of carries as Johnson and White, not almost split down the middle.

Williams should get 25 touches a game, rushes, catches, whatever you have to do.

[megadeth078]

All I'm saying is that when your Running Back is picking up nine yards a clip he shouldn't have touches taken away by your other running back who is only picking up three yards a clip. Jake is obviously the real problem, but that has been beaten to death. This is another problem that needs to be fixed. They get about the same ratio of carries as Johnson and White, not almost split down the middle.

Williams should get 25 touches a game, rushes, catches, whatever you have to do.

pass less then. Don't blame Stewart just because there are enough Jake bashing threads. Umm...hmmm...you could try blaming Davidson? There aren't enough threads covering that, and you would actually have good reason.

[Lt Pinkerton]

pass less then. Don't blame Stewart just because there are enough Jake bashing threads. Umm...hmmm...you could try blaming Davidson. There aren't enough threads covering that, and you would actually have good reason.

You're missing the point.

We both agree that Jake is the problem, another problem is how the carries are divided. When your starting RB is on fire and playing lights out he should get more carries than the backup RB who is not playing nearly as well. In the Miami game Deangelo had 13 carries for 122 yards, while Stewart had 12 for 43. Give six of those carries to Deangelo and maybe we win that game.

[rayzor]

fixed for clarity

probably a good idea.

[Delhommey]

It's come to this.

[megadeth078]

You're missing the point.

We both agree that Jake is the problem, another problem is how the carries are divided. When your starting RB is on fire and playing lights out he should get more carries than the backup RB who is not playing nearly as well. In the Miami game Deangelo had 13 carries for 122 yards, while Stewart had 12 for 43. Give six of those carries to Deangelo and maybe we win that game.

....then take away pass attempts from Delhomme.

jeez, where's the common sense?

[Lt Pinkerton]

....then take away pass attempts from Delhomme.

jeez, where's the common sense?

Obviously we run the ball more. Obviously we take attempts away from Delhomme. This thread isn't about Delhomme. This thread is about how Stewart takes too many carries from Williams. Thank you for successfully missing the point four consecutive times.

[Davidson Deac II]

Or I should say, the way we are using him makes him a liability. He is a great back, and I think he should see the ball a few times a game, but I don't think he should get the 10-15 carries he does over Deangelo. It's no secret that Williams gets better as the game goes on and does most of his magic in the second half (at least during the games that we are not behind and throwing every down) It seems like every game that Williams will rattle off a 12 yard run on first and ten and then check himself out for Stewart, only for Stewart to be stopped for two to four yards and all of a sudden Jake needs to throw the ball twice in order to convert. Our game against Miami was a prime example of this happening. Deangelo needs to get into a rhythm and when Stewie comes in after every good run it just hurts that rhythm.

Use him for what he is, a goal line and short-yardage situation back. Deangelo should be the one running on first down, and he should definitely be the one in the game on pass plays and on the draw plays. Stewart is a very good running back, but Deangelo needs more touches. He is our best player.

Williams is our best player. And the reason he is able to do so well is that we rotate him and keep him fresh. Increase the carries he gets, and his effectiveness will lessen. He should get about 18-25 carries a game, Stewart should get 15-20 a game, and Delhomme should throw a lot less.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

it's funny how stewart, who has had the better overall ypc of the two backs all season long up until thursday, is now a liability.

this thread is stupid.