Crazy Idea: Sign UFA Minshew, Draft a TE

[45catfan]

23 hours ago, heel31ok said:

Comparing to past yrs isnt really saying much.the TEs are fine...dude.

Fine? As in #42 and #51 in yards kind of fine? Setting the bar a little low.  Our OL is top half of the League and that's the problem?  We don't have a TE cracking the top 32 in yards...you know, better than at least one other team's #2 guy. 

 

[heel31ok]

13 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Fine? As in #42 and #51 in yards kind of fine? Setting the bar a little low.  Our OL is top half of the League and that's the problem?  We don't have a TE cracking the top 32 in yards...you know, better than at least one other team's #2 guy. 

 

Underutilization...

 

 

[heel31ok]

13 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Fine? As in #42 and #51 in yards kind of fine? Setting the bar a little low.  Our OL is top half of the League and that's the problem?  We don't have a TE cracking the top 32 in yards...you know, better than at least one other team's #2 guy. 

 

Top half isnt the goal...top is...that fixes any te issues 

[45catfan]

3 hours ago, heel31ok said:

Top half isnt the goal...top is...that fixes any te issues 

Ok, we strive for #1 OL while we languish in TE purgatory.  You can do two things at once.  I agree our TEs are underutilized...because they suck.  As an OC , I would be hesitant to use them too.

Edited January 1, 2023 by 45catfan

[heel31ok]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Ok, we strive for #1 OL while we languish in TE purgatory.  You can do two things at once.  I agree our TEs are underutilized...because they suck.  As an OC , I would be hesitant to use them too.

False premise...we arent languishing in te purgatory. Neglect doesnt prove hesitantcy.To be sure a top line would elevate te position. As well as qb position.

[45catfan]

4 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

False premise...we arent languishing in te purgatory. Neglect doesnt prove hesitantcy.To be sure a top line would elevate te position. As well as qb position.

How?  TEs are generally a QBs security blanket. So a mediocre-to-bad OL should have MORE TE utilization, not less.  A team with a superior OL that doesn't require an in-line blocking TE will opt for the extra WR nearly every time on passing downs. Your logic doesn't make sense.

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

How?  TEs are generally a QBs security blanket. So a mediocre-to-bad OL should have MORE TE utilization, not less.  A team with a superior OL that doesn't require an in-line blocking TE will opt for the extra WR nearly every time on passing downs. Your logic doesn't make sense.

Lol...you are desperate now.A great oline is always to be desired.

 

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

Lol...you are desperate now.A great oline is always to be desired.

 

No, you are grasping at straws. 

Just outside the top 10 and you say say that our OL is dragging the entire offense down.  Who is desperate?

[heel31ok]

On 1/1/2023 at 6:49 PM, 45catfan said:

No, you are grasping at straws. 

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Just outside the top 10 and you say say that our OL is dragging the entire offense down.  Who is desperate?

That is incorrect. Hopefully not a purposeful lie.

[45catfan]

1 hour ago, heel31ok said:

That is incorrect. Hopefully not a purposeful lie.

I pulled that straight from PFF.  Where's your proof?

[45catfan]

This is why you take a projected/value top 10 TE in the draft:

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Our TEs are far from "fine". They suck. We have one of the worst TE group's in the NFL. We don't have a starting caliber TE. Our TEs are marginal backups. The Hurney-esque plan of paying a guy like a starter and hoping he'll magically start playing like it is working out predictably. Most fans (myself included) wanted to let Ian Thomas walk without even tendering him an offer. He's a veteran minimum contract level player.

[ForJimmy]

56 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

This is why you take a projected/value top 10 TE in the draft:

 

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The Lions drafted him. Vikings traded a 2nd and 3rd for him since Cousins is locked in at QB. 

[45catfan]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

The Lions drafted him. Vikings traded a 2nd and 3rd for him since Cousins is locked in at QB. 

Correct, the Lions weren't utilizing him a la Greg Olsen in Chicago.  Being traded doesn't necessarily the player is a bust, rather it's not a fit schematically or another team is interested and the package is good enough to part with the player.