The worst overall #1 draft pick QB in history is none other than

[Ghostofdelhomme]

Steve Young. 
Bucs drafted Testaverde, shipped Young to SFO. 

 

[45catfan]

10 hours ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

Steve Young. 
Bucs drafted Testaverde, shipped Young to SFO. 

 

How did you come to this conclusion, just on wins?  Young actually went on to study under a G.O.A.T. coach and QB to become a really good QB.  Arguably the biggest bust even though he a FEW more wins was JaMarcus Russell.  Dude was out of the League before his rookie contract was up.

[Ghostofdelhomme]

3 hours ago, 45catfan said:

How did you come to this conclusion, just on wins?  Young actually went on to study under a G.O.A.T. coach and QB to become a really good QB.  Arguably the biggest bust even though he a FEW more wins was JaMarcus Russell.  Dude was out of the League before his rookie contract was up.

I just thought it was interesting that Steve Young was the worst rookie #1 overall qb ever, Jamarcus was bad but not Steve Young Tampa Bay bad.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Ghostofdelhomme

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

I just thought it was interesting that Steve Young was the worst rookie #1 overall qb ever, Jamarcus was bad but not Steve Young Tampa Bay bad.

Russell was on a better overall team than Steve too and only with a few more wins to show for it.  Russell was out of the league in 3 years.

[Ghostofdelhomme]

5 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Russell was on a better overall team than Steve too and only with a few more wins to show for it.  Russell was out of the league in 3 years.

Steve young could just have easily had the same fate. That is nuts

[BrisbanePanther]

On 12/5/2023 at 4:20 AM, 45catfan said:

Russell was on a better overall team than Steve too and only with a few more wins to show for it.  Russell was out of the league in 3 years.

And Russell was throwing 70-yarders from his knees in all the pre-draft noise.

[Shocker]

Clear proof that rookie QBs on bad teams struggle mightily.  

[Pantha-kun]

 

Steve Youngs  first year with a close to full season was his actual 2nd year in the league in 1986. This actually looks not too dissimilar to Bryces season. 2 wins, 8TD 13 INT, 2282 passing yards.

The weird thing with Steve Young is he did not have another full season again until 1992. Went 14-2 that year 29 TD 16 INT and he won the MVP that year.

They keep showing on these broadcasts that HOF QBs like Aikman and P.Manning and others had bad rookie seasons. Stafford, Goff, T.Lawerence also had somewhat bad or mediocre rookie years. 

This situation's going to take years to evaluate considering what we gave up to get Bryce. Hes getting at least his 2nd season in 2024. Probably 2025 as well if he doesnt play like dog poo. 

Ive vocal in criticising him this year but I'll give Bryce some credit where its due. He's been showing some  better poo later in the year. He had 2 crucial game winning drives vs Houston and vs Atlanta and hes had probably his best game of the year against Green Bay today. 
 

 

[Ghostofdelhomme]

There haven’t been that many overall #1 qb’s until the favorable rule changes, Matt Stafford started the trend. Jameis is the only active one that’s not a decent starter. So the odds for Bryce are good. Sam Bradford and JaMarcus are the only true busts out of 15 #1 QBs in the last 20 years.