Our Defense Is Good

[Zcustom]

Our offense is not helping the defense with Time Of Possession.

Why we are throwing on first down so much is beyond me. You throw on first down, incomplete most of the time. Then after you predictably run on 2nd down for short yardage we're stuck with third and long which is most likely to be incomplete. The TOP on a possession like this is what, 1 minute or so?

At least if we run on 1st and either 2nd or 3rd we can have possessions that last 2-4 minutes or potentially longer if we can get a first down.

[panthers55]

Our offense is not helping the defense with Time Of Possession.

Why we are throwing on first down so much is beyond me. You throw on first down, incomplete most of the time. Then after you predictably run on 2nd down for short yardage we're stuck with third and long which is most likely to be incomplete. The TOP on a possession like this is what, 1 minute or so?

At least if we run on 1st and either 2nd or 3rd we can have possessions that last 2-4 minutes or potentially longer if we can get a first down.

You throw on first down because the quarterback looks up and sees 9 guys in the box. If that doesn't work you run on second down hoping to get 4 or 5 yards so you end up in third and manageable.

You don't run on first and second down simply to extend the TOP a minute or two. You do it to actually get some first downs by run or pass. You have to take what the defense gives you. If you don't have extended drives and score points, you never win a game.

[Zcustom]

You throw on first down because the quarterback looks up and sees 9 guys in the box. If that doesn't work you run on second down hoping to get 4 or 5 yards so you end up in third and manageable.

You don't run on first and second down simply to extend the TOP a minute or two. You do it to actually get some first downs by run or pass. You have to take what the defense gives you. If you don't have extended drives and score points, you never win a game.

Oh I know. It's just that nothing is working for the O right now.

So we go incomplete on first down against 9 in the box, get 1 or 2 yards on second down instead of 4 or 5 and end up in third and long.

I was just wondering if it made any sense to commit to the run and hope we get 4+ yards per rush and give the offense some momentum. It's not like we don't have the backs to pull that off.

My point is that on drives that produce no points what's better, a 3 and out or a couple first downs and some rest for the D?

Regardless, the answer to everything is better execution.

[Happy Panther]

But you are the only person on here that thinks our offense has been great. .

Where did i state that?

please provide specific examples

[Happy Panther]

In the dictionary under "strawman" they should put a link to this thread

[Zcustom]

Oh I know. It's just that nothing is working for the O right now.

So we go incomplete on first down against 9 in the box, get 1 or 2 yards on second down instead of 4 or 5 and end up in third and long.

I was just wondering if it made any sense to commit to the run and hope we get 4+ yards per rush and give the offense some momentum. It's not like we don't have the backs to pull that off.

My point is that on drives that produce no points what's better, a 3 and out or a couple first downs and some rest for the D?

Regardless, the answer to everything is better execution.

Not to beat my own drum or anything, but, our most successful drive of the day came when we implemented this plan.

jus sayin

[panthers55]

Not to beat my own drum or anything, but, our most successful drive of the day came when we implemented this plan.

jus sayin

You mean that drum that netted us 6 points all day. With less than 150 total net yards, the offense was abysmal. Must have been a toy drum.

What I said about the defense was still true. We don't manage the edge with our DEs at all. Those long runs were totally because our DEs crash down to rush the passer and get caught up inside. Then the linebacker and safety don't fill and opponents are off to the races. By the time we shut that down it was way too late. Tackling was better but several guys including beason took poor angles in pursuit and special teams was pretty poor.