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John Fox & Jeff Davidson Should Be Fired ASAP

The Pope

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The Pope

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after watching the bears game its clear to me now more than ever these 2 need to be fired they are sucking the life out of our offense with their stale ass playcalling.

Another thing the defense gives us 4 turnovers and we can't cash even one of them in. If that don't tell you jeff davidson needs to go nothing will he just don't have a clue at running an offense and john fox just needs to go he act has gotten old.

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Maybe they should, but they won't be and I doubt that would fix anything... we just don't have the talent right now.

It's also important to remember that this is not Fox's roster. I think Fox should go anyways, but I'm not blaming this debacle on his coaching. This is JR's roster and he can't be fired.

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Nobody is firing Fox or Hurney. We could go 0-16... they aren't going anywhere. The organization is expecting a lockout. They have no desire to build for the future and aren't even discussing the future, until this issue with the lockout is addressed at seasons end.

In Richardson's mind, this year is a meaningless. Fox is here because he has a year left on his contract and Richardson didn't want to sign anybody else to any sort of commitments with an uncertain future looming. That being the case, the expectations for Fox are this... "get through the season". We win one game, we win zero, it DOES NOT MATTER.

If ownership cared about winning TODAY, they wouldn't have let go of so much veteran talent for inexperienced ones going into this season. I don't see how you pull your veteran QB, get rid of Peppers and Harris and tell the coach you have high expectations for his club! :ciappa:

Plus the difference is, any GOOD coach we sign will want an owner commitment to spending money. Redskins coach Mike Shanahan didn't sign wth the Redskins because Jerry Richardson owns the team!!! :D

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It's not all Fox, and it's not all Davidson. Firing them right now really isn't gonna save us at this point in the season.

No, but it could inspire people. At some point, things just become stagnant. People need to see a change in scenery. I think we've well reached that point.

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It's not all Fox, and it's not all Davidson. Firing them right now really isn't gonna save us at this point in the season.

No, they are not the ones on the field not executing or making pre-snap penalties. Davidson should be fired if anything to maybe light a fire under somebodies ass.

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