Post- Training Camp 53-Man Roster Projection

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, CRA said:

ESPN analytics has AT with the 135th YAC rating out of 149 WRs in the NFL last year.  Dead last in Carolina.

274 out of 312 the year before.  Dead last in Carolina. 

NFL Receiver Scores - ESPN Analytics

it is a AT thing.  Despite being bad, AT actually occupies the WR spot where YAC production is most easily generated by players.  Should be easier for AT than XL on the outside (in a Dave O w/ BY)

The most productive WR position in a Bryce Young O likely SHOULD be the slot.  Not out wide.  Which is why you don't want AT dominating it.  Because he can't do anything with it accept meet the floor of plays.    An ideal BY passing O would favor the slot, TE, and rec RB given what his arm is and how he plays the game (which we all largely agreed the short quick game was our direction when we drafted BY). 

Every spot and role is different based on scheme and QB.  Slot w/ BY should be a YAC centric spot.  

I do find it very funny that the source you are referencing also so clearly shows how much better AT has performed in 2024 than anyone on the roster that isn't Jalen Coker.

Look, I get that you have some personal axe to grind with AT but you are genuinely letting it get in the way of your ability to be objective.

He has been overwhelmingly our best WR in 2023 and 2024. It's backed up by statistics, metrics, even the simple eye test. 

That's basically what the great roster building work under David Tepper has done. You have a mid-30's, slow #1 WR.

[Icege]

Timestamp of Idzik listing TMac, XL, AT, and Coker as the locks and everybody else fighting for the remaining spots. Saids that they would love 6 - 7 considering the talent that they have.

WR Coach Moore mentions JHJ, Canales asks about Renfrow. No mention of Moore nor Tremayne included. That might be more of a behind closed doors type of discussion.

[PNW_PantherMan]

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's basically what the great roster building work under David Tepper has done. You have a mid-30's, slow #1 WR.

They overpaid him and he still delivered surplus value.

[LinvilleGorge]

18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I do find it very funny that the source you are referencing also so clearly shows how much better AT has performed in 2024 than anyone on the roster that isn't Jalen Coker.

Look, I get that you have some personal axe to grind with AT but you are genuinely letting it get in the way of your ability to be objective.

He has been overwhelmingly our best WR in 2023 and 2024. It's backed up by statistics, metrics, even the simple eye test. 

That's basically what the great roster building work under David Tepper has done. You have a mid-30's, slow #1 WR.

It's the QB school guy mentality. Thielen is a shitty #1 option so aaarrrrggghhhh FUUUUUUUUUG HIM!!! This dude SUCKS!!!

Yeah, Thielen should no longer be a #1 option at this stage in his career. He honestly shouldn't be a starter at this point in his career. But it's not an Adam Thielen issue that we've had to ask him to do that.

[CRA]

33 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I do find it very funny that the source you are referencing also so clearly shows how much better AT has performed in 2024 than anyone on the roster that isn't Jalen Coker.

Look, I get that you have some personal axe to grind with AT but you are genuinely letting it get in the way of your ability to be objective.

He has been overwhelmingly our best WR in 2023 and 2024. It's backed up by statistics, metrics, even the simple eye test. 

That's basically what the great roster building work under David Tepper has done. You have a mid-30's, slow #1 WR.

I mean I don't have a personal axe to grind with any human on the Panthers roster.  I know AT shouldn't be dominating the slot. The fact he is....is because we have a horrific front office/management.   I can part with any player.   The goal is a winning team.  

the root of the AT ranting, is really just looking out for BY (people like to call me BY hater though).  A QB who was basically screwed from day 1 when we got drafted here.  I went hard at Carolina then too for setting him up to fail. Because it was obvious from the jump the setup was failure by design.  Which was true.   I said Frank made zero sense with BY.  Miles Sandes made double zero sense.  The players they got in FA made zero sense.    

Either you build a BY O.....or you move on from BY.  I have said I am cool either way.  We are in no man's land and have been there since they day we drafted him. 

 

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean I don't have a personal axe to grind with any human on the Panthers roster.  I know AT shouldn't be dominating the slot. The fact he is....is because we have a horrific front office/management.   I can part with any player.   The goal is a winning team.  

the root of the AT ranting, is really just looking out for BY (people like to call me BY hater though).  A QB who was basically screwed from day 1 when we got drafted here.  I went hard at Carolina then too for setting him up to fail. Because it was obvious from the jump the setup was failure by design.  Which was true.   I said Frank bad zero sense with BY.  Miles Sandes made double zero sense.  The players they got in FA made zero sense.    

Either you build a BY O.....or you move on from BY.  I have said I am cool either way.  We are in no man's land and have been there since they day we drafted him. 

 

Well, welcome to being a Tepper era Panthers fan. 

We have maybe up to 10-12 players that would even get serious consideration on the remaining 31 teams in the NFL.

You just need to learn to Tepper your expectations.