The tide finally turns... Even Bryce nut huggers at PFF finally admit the obvious.

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, Aussie Tank said:

Im not carrying water for Bryce im carrying water that the arm chair GMs here aren't the QB savants they think they are 

Sure buddy

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, Aussie Tank said:

I was just surmising that the people with such staunch stances on Bryce early on before all the so called experts must be Savants. And then I remembered how those other QBs in listed have been talked about around here 

No do Pickett wilson or any of the hundred first rd qb busts.  

[Aussie Tank]

39 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

No do Pickett wilson or any of the hundred first rd qb busts.  

Yeah I should of just stuck with the ones that have donned the Panthers jersey the last 4-5 years 

[Aussie Tank]

45 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Sure buddy

Too easy mate 

[strato]

28 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Too easy mate 

I don’t know how people could not see it. I am no draft scout and never claimed to be. 
It is a situation where when you look at him, what does he have physically that is better than NFL average? Nothing that I could see. 
Not foot speed. Not arm strength. 
Then you look at his size and it is well below all but Murray in my memory for the modern NFL era. 
Murray has the plus athleticism/quickness and a plus 
arm. I still wouldn’t want him because of his size.  
But Bryce had none of that to offset his size. 
So okay now that I have assessed Bryce I don’t want him. It was a simple checklist.

Except I see all this talk that they might take him. So now I decide I need to look at him closer. 
Pro day video… I see what I called a skip step. A little extra move on the deep pass. I look at the velocity of his throws, NFL average is being kind. I look at that footwork and it is big time wonky. 
So there you are, lower ball velocity in my opinion  

That adds time in a league where guys are timed down to the 100th of a second. Not a plus. It is questionable.

Then the extra move on the deep balls which is time, in the face of pressure, and space, also in the face of pressure…  it is a stack of negatives and the guy had nothing athletically to offset it.

And it is the 1.1 of the NFL draft where there has  never been a successful player with his attributes at his position, in the modern era. 
In his case you don’t have to be a super scout. You just had to look and think about him in relationship to the NFL game. 
 

I never watched him in college and think that prevented me from rationalizing things. I had no bias in that regard and I believe others might have. 
 

Combine that with a personal opinion that the SEC is not the NFL and there was no automatic approval  because of the level of competition level he faced…. 
 

On that front I feel there are single digit examples of guys who truly could be in the NFL in their final year of college. The freaks.

The rest of them… take what they were their first NFL camp and give the a season in the league and an offseason with the resources and standards of NFL conditioning and strength programs and compare them to a year before… you will see a big difference. And they aren’t finished growing either so that plays into it. 
It is was a bunch of factors that just equaled do not do this.

It gets a lot harder if he had the size to measure up to these normal prospects with the prototypical physiques, and the cannon arm, etc. I never could claim to be good at eyeballing comparisons between two players like that.
 

Bryce was such a unique situation.

Anyway that was the process.  
Looking at guys that people compared him to was also informative, since Brees was the big one. And if you honestly look at Brees and his size, people comparing the two like they are 1 to 1, it was smoke. I am always suspicious of smoke blowing, when I find it. 
Saying I was not special I just used my brain and eyes and they are not special either. So I had a very hard time understanding what people were thinking. 

Edited November 11, 2025 by strato