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Where panthers draft ranked against Big Boards in 2023


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5 minutes ago, strato said:

Here is where I think you are off. WTF does what he did in college or where he was drafted have anything to do with how he plays 4 years into the league? Now, where he was drafted Does keep him on the team but it should have nothing to do with his next contract. Ancient history. 
And he was a very up and down 8-9 including playoffs. Mostly down to be honest, by top half of the league standards. You don’t give that top of the market. 
 

It would be much different if the team put nothing around him, and he carried them to 8-9 but that is so not the case. He is 1 of 11 at best. 

Your not wrong in your evaluation.

However the league never sees it like that. He will get paid. 

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8 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

Your not wrong in your evaluation.

However the league never sees it like that. He will get paid. 

He will get paid because the owners are morons and take this personal rather than a business.  To date Bryce has no business getting paid as a nfl starter.  I mean hell someone just showed how Brissett had better stats than Young.   KC, San fran and LA all made "hard" call of moving on from their playoff qb and it reaped rewards.  Thats what smart franchises do not keep prolonging the inevitable like miami, giants, rams or KC

 

If you are really asking "whats the alternative" to bryce, then no offense, you are either thinking on some weird linear level or deep down you really really like bryce because a simple upgrade would be easy

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5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He will get paid because the owners are morons and take this personal rather than a business.  To date Bryce has no business getting paid as a nfl starter.  I mean hell someone just showed how Brissett had better stats than Young.   KC, San fran and LA all made "hard" call of moving on from their playoff qb and it reaped rewards.  Thats what smart franchises do not keep prolonging the inevitable like miami, giants, rams or KC

 

If you are really asking "whats the alternative" to bryce, then no offense, you are either thinking on some weird linear level or deep down you really really like bryce because a simple upgrade would be easy

Honestly I am not sure Pickett couldn’t step in for him. But I don’t see a clear easy upgrade and we are not KC with Alex Smith we are a team that hadn’t done poo for almost ten years and just made the playoffs. And looked good in the game. That stadium atmosphere on that day…. you know Tepper ate that poo up. Not one drink has been thrown in a while. 

You had better make sure if you replaced him after that that you had a sure fire upgrade. 

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1 minute ago, strato said:

Honestly I am not sure Pickett couldn’t step in for him. But I don’t see a clear easy upgrade and we are not KC with Alex Smith we are a team that hadn’t done poo for almost ten years and just made the playoffs. And looked good in the game. That stadium atmosphere on that day…. you know Tepper ate that poo up. Not one drink has been thrown in a while. 

You had better make sure if you replaced him after that that you had a sure fire upgrade. 

so the option is "you better have a sure fire upgrade" or give him a new deal worth 60 million per?   yeah I know which button I am pushing

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11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

so the option is "you better have a sure fire upgrade" or give him a new deal worth 60 million per?   yeah I know which button I am pushing

I am talking about this year and not picking up the option. We pretty much lost that option because of what I referred to in that post. 
 

edit: where we sit now, I couldn’t imagine anything over a Darnold deal like the Seahawks gave out. 33 mil a year on a short term extension. If he doesn’t really seriously up his game and our W-L record. He ain’t carrying this team and shouldn’t be paid like he is that guy. 

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