i think peyton manning should win the MVP this year

[Grammer]

regardless of if he plays, good lord the colts look AWFUL.

i think its fair to say that he's the greatest of all time now

edit: fug, move this to the NFL forum

[GritsRgreat]

lmao.

good point

[OneBadassCat]

Well that whole offense has been designed around him. I don't think it was ever intended for another QB to learn the system, unlike other teams.

[Swarly]

Joe Montana would like to have a word with you about this "greatest of all time" thing.

[Panthers128]

It's just one game.

[Wyank]

Peyton Manning for MVP. He is the Colts. And the Colts are screwed without him.

[teeray]

I honestly think it fundamentally changes the whole Brady v. Manning debate. When Brady went down the Pats went 11-5 (I think). When Manning has gone down the Colts may have the number one pick in the draft (it is just one game but...).

IMO since Dungy has left Peyton has carried a pretty poorly coached team.

[Grammer]

A. Luck to the Colts...

wouldn't that be some poo

[Wyank]

A. Luck to the Colts...

This is the conversation Manning had with Luck. "Andrew, just stay another year. I'm having surgery and will sit this year. We will have the number 1 pick in next draft. We'll draft you as my heir replacement. I'll guide you to be the guy until I retire. Welcome to the Colts."

[rodeo]

It certainly would be poetic justice if Manning got replaced by Luck after convincing him not to declare last year.

[Swarly]

I honestly think it fundamentally changes the whole Brady v. Manning debate. When Brady went down the Pats went 11-5 (I think). When Manning has gone down the Colts may have the number one pick in the draft (it is just one game but...).

IMO since Dungy has left Peyton has carried a pretty poorly coached team.

the guy who lead that pats team to 11-5 is coming off a division winning season throwing 27td/7int with a 93 rating for the Chiefs. it's not like jimmy clausen stepped in and lead the Pats to 11-5, Cassel is a good QB.

brady still has the better career. peyton will always be the best regular season qb of all time though.

[GritsRgreat]

I honestly think it fundamentally changes the whole Brady v. Manning debate. When Brady went down the Pats went 11-5 (I think). When Manning has gone down the Colts may have the number one pick in the draft (it is just one game but...).

IMO since Dungy has left Peyton has carried a pretty poorly coached team.

You think? Caldwell couldn't coach Wake out of a brown paper bag.

[teeray]

the guy who lead that pats team to 11-5 is coming off a division winning season throwing 27td/7int with a 93 rating for the Chiefs. it's not like jimmy clausen stepped in and lead the Pats to 11-5, Cassel is a good QB.

brady still has the better career. peyton will always be the best regular season qb of all time though.

The guy leading the Colts is only a few years removed from a 13-3 season and a Pro Bowl appearance :confused:

Matt Cassell is getting crushed by the mighty Bills defense right now.

[mercules20]

the guy who lead that pats team to 11-5 is coming off a division winning season throwing 27td/7int with a 93 rating for the Chiefs. it's not like jimmy clausen stepped in and lead the Pats to 11-5, Cassel is a good QB.

brady still has the better career. peyton will always be the best regular season qb of all time though.

of course there isn't proof that manning cheated but i guess we should just assume he did that during the regular season :D