Newton vs. Tebow

[weymouthst]

Even an objective person would say Cam is better than The Golden Calf of Bristol.

It shows in throwing motion, release, footwork, throwing power. It is no secret that The Golden Calf of Bristol's throwing mechanics were critiqued heavily. Coaches tried to alter it.

Cam zips the ball, accurately, and naturally. The Golden Calf of Bristol does not. Cam is showing that he can make all the NFL throws. The Golden Calf of Bristol, IMO, hasn't.

Both are good leaders. Both have strong faith, and both are good character guys. Both believe in themselves.

Both, IMO, are very mobile, and this is where the bulk of comparison based on athleticism can be derived. Both can make plays with their feet.

But when it comes down to being a quarterback, Cam is better than The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[CatMan72]

And that is exactly why it's hard to compare.

Dalton isn't being asked to throw for 300 yards a game. He might be capable but we don't know. All we know is that he does his job successfully. He also doesn't have the playmakers we have.

Just because he's not in the gun, throwing 40 times a game doesn't mean he can't, he's simply not being asked too. He's executing his game plan successfully and you can't knock him for that.

Dalton is being asked to be a game manager, and he's doing a good job of that - but let's not pretend he doesn't have any weapons between Benson, Green, Simpson and Gresham.

Dalton is averaging 31 passing attempts per game while Cam is averaging 35. Dalton has thrown for 1,693 yards while Cam has thrown for 2,393 yards.

[mav1234]

he has weapons, but ours are better imo. still he has help on offense I think. he's playing well... He's making all the throws he needs to, so it's tough for me to say that the skills he's shown are inferior to Cam's. He is running such a vastly different offense it is hard to compare them like that... I personally think Cam has the higher ceiling but a lot of that is speculation.

No doubt Dalton benefits from a great special teams and defense, though. He still is playing a big role in his teams wins and deserves the credit he is getting, even if he has help.

[I am Hubby]

It's the scheme, not the player... Wait, it takes players to make the scheme work.

But... he has better players on his team... so did the teams we have played except the Jags and Skins.

Monsoons are the reason we had a bad game.

Wins are the only stat that counts...unless you are comparing players, then it is a team game.

I believe this... you believe that...I am right... your are wrong...No I'm not...Yes I am.

I LOVE THIS PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!

[I am Hubby]

The Golden Calf of Bristol is no where near the QB Cam is. When all is said and done, Cam will be Elite, whereas The Golden Calf of Bristol will be... well, The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[mav1234]

The Golden Calf of Bristol is no where near the QB Cam is. When all is said and done, Cam will be Elite, whereas The Golden Calf of Bristol will be... well, The Golden Calf of Bristol.

so you think The Golden Calf of Bristol will be one of a kind? ;)

[I am Hubby]

Dalton has a team behind him. Cam has...well, the Panthers.

Ponder...to early to tell.

Cam has reinvigorated an entire fan base...besides the vocal minority.

Giddy F-ing up. And GOOO CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!(Panthers and Lions)

[I am Hubby]

so you think The Golden Calf of Bristol will be one of a kind? ;)

A definite yes to that Mav. He is a winner, no doubt about that. As a QB, not so much. I will give him the fact that the read option is a topic of interest as of now.

But if you think The Golden Calf of Bristol can get you to the promised land as is...it ain't gonna happen.

[mav1234]

A definite yes to that Mav. He is a winner, no doubt about that. As a QB, not so much. I will give him the fact that the read option is a topic of interest as of now.

But if you think The Golden Calf of Bristol can get you to the promised land as is...it ain't gonna happen.

I can't help but be impressed by how The Golden Calf of Bristol finds ways to win, at least lately, but I tend to have a pretty low opinion of his prospects as a long-time starter in the league. We'll see though, athleticism can make up for a lot.

[I am Hubby]

You hit the nail on the head with that "Athleticism can make up for a lot". Is that not what some thought would keep Cam in the league? His athleticism. Unfortunately, that only takes you so far. You absolutely need to have the whole package to actually excel. And I cannot believe we got that with our QB.

I did not want Cam. I wanted Darieus, (sp) and then suck for Luck. And with teh Jimmy as our QB would have been pretty much a lock. (Lol) Zod I have never been so happy to be wrong.

Part of me, a small part granted, feels bad for Timmy. He absolutely loves being a QB. It is really too bad he cannot throw the ball, cuz if he could he just might be a quality QB.

[MWCarolina]

it's simple. The Golden Calf of Bristol is a project QB who was drafted too high and is controversial (which is why he's talked about) and Newton was thought to be that, but isnt. he's a much better passer than people thought with the ability to run when he has to, he reminds me (when he runs) of Vince Young, as for his passing, i cant give you an answer because i think he's his own man with his passing, he's much better than i thought. as for The Golden Calf of Bristol, he's a run QB with an inaccurate arm, BUT i really like The Golden Calf of Bristol and HOPE and WANT him to be as good as your Bronco fan roommate thinks he is

[I am Hubby]

Give Timmy all the love you want. Athlete, leader, winner... Until he can throw a pass past 10 yards that does not wobble, I will continue to doubt him.

It may just be me, but, a QB that does not have a tight spiral on his throws scares me. There is some major flaw in his motion, mechanics, or release, that does not allow him to throw a spiral. And that concerns me.

I mean, how many of you guys cannot go out in the backyard and throw a spiral? It is, for me anyway, not that hard. Why is The Golden Calf of Bristol unable to do such a simple thing as throw the football without it flopping around like a floundering duck?

[Razzy]

Just another ignorant football "fan" who doesn't know the game and doesn't really watch them.

[I am Hubby]

Just another ignorant football "fan" who doesn't know the game and doesn't really watch them.

Wow, four insults in one sentence. That has to be some kind of record.