Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Abortion, ban it or endorse it?????

Iceberg Slim

By Iceberg Slim,
in Huddle Lounge

Recommended Posts

CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted

It is nobody's choice to have a child when they have sex. The only choice made when people have sex is the choice to have sex (assuming it isn't a rape). .

Sex is a reproductive act first and foremost. So yes, when you CHOOSE to have sex you have to except the responsiblity that it's actual function is CREATING LIFE. Reproduction isn't a possible consequence of sex.......it is the purpose if it. The good feelings and fun is just icing on the cake in reality.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mmmbeans Newbie

mmmbeans

Posted
Posted

Sex is a reproductive act first and foremost. So yes, when you CHOOSE to have sex you have to except the responsiblity that it's actual function is CREATING LIFE. Reproduction isn't a possible consequence of sex.......it is the purpose if it. The good feelings and fun is just icing on the cake in reality.

the pleasure of sex is just as physiological as the possible outcome... the fact that we experience pleasure is actually WHY we do it.

in reality, the "creation of life" and propagation of the species is simply the icing on the cake.

Do you eat because if you don't you will die? Do you eat because you enjoy it? These things are evolutionarily and physiologically intertwined. We've been programmed for millions of years to do them, we can't help it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Zcustom Newbie

Zcustom

Posted
Posted

the biggest issue with abortion is that in order to fully comprehend and make an informed decision about something so serious, you need to have experienced it first hand. Men simply cannot do that. Most women can't either.

Majority of the worlds problems arise from people making decisions on topics that they are dangerously misinformed about.

There needs to be serious education on both sides of the issue before a rational, intelligent "decision" can be made.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted

the biggest issue with abortion is that in order to fully comprehend and make an informed decision about something so serious, you need to have experienced it first hand. Men simply cannot do that. Most women can't either.

.

you just said the only people who should make decisions in regards to abortions are those who have aborted their pregancy? :confused:

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mmmbeans Newbie

mmmbeans

Posted
Posted

yes. at it's core.

if you completely ignore the layers of evolutionary physiological and psychological conditioning to encourage us to do these things you really aren't talking about anything that is real.

animals don't f*ck because they think it will result in pro-creation... they do it because it feels good, because something in their brains tells them they *need* to.

the outcome is incidental. If your premise was true, people would stop having sex if they were impotent or when they got old. Homosexuality wouldn't exist.

But all these things happen because people have sex first and foremost for pleasure. They always have.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted

No

maybe I misread it but you said, men couldn't understand it, most women couldn't understand it.......that people with first hand experience needed to make the decision.

First hand experience of having abortions is what I read.....or did you mean women who have given birth to a child

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Zcustom Newbie

Zcustom

Posted
Posted

maybe I misread it but you said, men couldn't understand it, most women couldn't understand it.......that people with first hand experience needed to make the decision.

First hand experience of having abortions is what I read.....or did you mean women who have given birth to a child

Yes you did. By leaving out the rest of my post you took that paragraph out of context.

I said people need to make "informed" decisions, and that most people aren't properly educated on the subject.

the biggest issue with abortion is that in order to fully comprehend and make an informed decision about something so serious, you need to have experienced it first hand. Men simply cannot do that. Most women can't either.

Majority of the worlds problems arise from people making decisions on topics that they are dangerously misinformed about.

There needs to be serious education on both sides of the issue before a rational, intelligent "decision" can be made.

So since most people aren't capable of fully comprehending what it's like to be faced with a decision to abort....

....people need to educate themselves more before forming an opinion.

Maybe volunteer at a clinic, or spend time with women in that position, gain perspective...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted

if you completely ignore the layers of evolutionary physiological and psychological conditioning to encourage us to do these things you really aren't talking about anything that is real.

animals don't f*ck because they think it will result in pro-creation... they do it because it feels good, because something in their brains tells them they *need* to.

the outcome is incidental. If your premise was true, people would stop having sex if they were impotent or when they got old. Homosexuality wouldn't exist.

But all these things happen because people have sex first and foremost for pleasure. They always have.

you, me, life in general exists b/c of reproduction. Feeling good does go hand in hand.....but it's primary purpose is reproduction.

Sex drives, ability, frequency all diminish w/ age. Not a coincidence. We are wired and made to reproduce at certain ages.

I ain't touching the gay thing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted

Yes you did. By leaving out the rest of my post you took that paragraph out of context.

I said people need to make "informed" decisions, and that most people aren't properly educated on the subject.

...

It was your opening paragraph.......I did leave out more education being needed from my quote.

I just didn't get the context of "people with first hand experience needed to make the decision". Still don't.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • MHS831
      A look at the team after the draft and udfa signings...

      By MHS831 · Posted

      Here is how Morgan is strategic-He re-signs Scott because he was not going S in round 1--he had the chance, and he did not.  He saw the top of the draft at T and knew none of them would be ready to start day 1, so he signs a veteran to a one-year deal, giving his tackle selection a chance to learn and prepare for what might be LT or RT.  Those two moves suggested, perhaps ironically because they contradict each other, what he was going to do, based on the talent pool.  He never brought in a Robinson replacement at DE/NT, and then moves up to draft one.   I almost wonder if the intent was to draft DT/DE all along at some point, maybe with a trade back, but then Freeling dropped to them.   Of course, we felt that they were looking WR, and wonder if the plan was to draft a WR in round 2 if you traded back in round 1.  However, when Freeling was there, the trade back fell apart.  Then we traded up for Hunter.  We could stick with XL and hope Metchie steps up, so we sat still in round three and took Brazell II, a 1000 yard speedster and perfect Z WR.  What a break. At that time, CB and Center were our biggest needs, and with several possible centers on the board and a good fit for our defense at CB, we grabbed Will Lee III.  Lee and Thornton have people in front of them, but I think Morgan knew we needed a guy who can play the outside and press--and probably step in as Jackson's replacement in 2027.    After making trades to get back into the fifth round, where we grabbed one of the best centers in the draft.  This is significant because we signed Fortner to a one-year deal; maybe Morgan saw what some of us saw--the center position is strong in this draft--on day 3, and day 3 players need a year, in most cases.  Moments later, a safety they had been talking to whose skill set matched what we are looking for in a FS.  As stated, Scott was signed,  but the fact that the Panthers were talking to Wheatley and not Theiemann means that they might have known they were not going FS early, but would need a developmental FS later--which explains why we signed Scott.  So if you pay attention to the one-year, vet deals, you can tell where we planned to sign later-round, developmental players.  What positions did we draft early that did not have 1-year veterans signed in front of them:  DL (Hunter) and WR (I don't count Metchie because I count starting-level players). I would not be surprised to learn later that the plan was DT and WR in rounds 1 and 2--then Freeling fell.  Notice that Freeling--from Mt Pleasant SC, did not come in for a visit.  Most of the other OT candidates had short arms or were certain to be gone. I don't think Freeling was in their plans.  I think a trade back and Hunter and maybe Boston was the vision.  I am guessing that CB was also high on their list.   So in this draft, we got 
    • frankw
      OFFICIAL 2026 Undrafted Free Agent Thread

      By frankw · Posted

      This is one area I think that is not getting enough exposure in the midst of all the optimism. I like Chuba a great deal from a personal standpoint but he has largely proven nothing on a consistent basis yet. He's had the one season of production but before that most people pegged us as moving on. And last year injuries or not he just did not have that juice. The rest of the guys are completely unproven. I don't see anyone among the group having a game or a handful of games worth of high level production the way Rico Dowdle did last year. And yeah he dropped off and yeah he got an attitude about our incompetent handling of the touches which was honestly justified on his part and he moved on but he did legitimately save our season. That's what it is going to take to seize control of the NFC South. We all know that we will not be passing all over defenses. It is what it is. So who amongst this RB group is capable of doing that? And if we are struggling to run the ball AND pass are we going to revert to making excuses for our coach and QB again? That is definitely getting old.
    • jfra78
      A look at the team after the draft and udfa signings...

      By jfra78 · Posted

      Thats what I'm thinking or even a 3rd QB
×
×
  • Create New...