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The New Official Hip-Hop Thread


Dpantherman

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For the hip hop crowd out there... I have a question:

 

If WalMart and Target are going to withdraw their sponsorship and pull all cookbooks of Paula Deen (whom I don't know, don't watch and otherwise couldn't care less about) for her use of the "N-word" some 30 years ago, should WalMart and Target also pull every medium in which the "N-word" appears? Such as hip hop CDs or any other music or print media that contains the same language?

 

This is not a facetious question or meant as some sarcastic comment, I want to know how the hip hop community feels about this.

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First off, Paula Deen didn't just 'use the word 30 years ago'.  She said she used it and and she uses it some times. 

 

Speaking of the n word itself, I don't use it.  I do know that it has a double meaning. Some people use it as a means of putting people down, and others just use it as just another word.  Is it a double standard? Probably so, but if it weren't for people like the rappers that used the N-word to take down its power as a word that is 'hurtful' there would be no double meaning.

 

That probably doesn't answer your question, but it's all I've got.

 

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For the hip hop crowd out there... I have a question:

 

If WalMart and Target are going to withdraw their sponsorship and pull all cookbooks of Paula Deen (whom I don't know, don't watch and otherwise couldn't care less about) for her use of the "N-word" some 30 years ago, should WalMart and Target also pull every medium in which the "N-word" appears? Such as hip hop CDs or any other music or print media that contains the same language?

 

This is not a facetious question or meant as some sarcastic comment, I want to know how the hip hop community feels about this.

 

Old white Southern lady saying the "n-word" is racist.

 

Young black men saying the "n-word" is in their nature.

 

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how society works these days.

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Old white Southern lady saying the "n-word" is racist.

 

Young black men saying the "n-word" is in their nature.

 

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how society works these days.

 

But, if it's "in their nature" for young black men to use the word, I'm going to state the obvious-

It's been in the nature of "old white Southern people" to user the "n-word" longer than it has for young black men.

 

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For the hip hop crowd out there... I have a question:

 

If WalMart and Target are going to withdraw their sponsorship and pull all cookbooks of Paula Deen (whom I don't know, don't watch and otherwise couldn't care less about) for her use of the "N-word" some 30 years ago, should WalMart and Target also pull every medium in which the "N-word" appears? Such as hip hop CDs or any other music or print media that contains the same language?

 

This is not a facetious question or meant as some sarcastic comment, I want to know how the hip hop community feels about this.

 

Wally world hasnt sold a CD containing the n-word in a while

 

http://www.walmart.com/cp/Music-Content-Policy/547092

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Wally world hasnt sold a CD containing the n-word in a while

 

http://www.walmart.com/cp/Music-Content-Policy/547092

 

The policy you're linked to simply outlines the RIAA policy of labels and further states that WalMart does not display album covers or song titles which contain profanity. Just the album or song title, they say nothing about the lyrics to the music itself.

 

I don't listen to hip hop and it took me less than 5 minutes to find a Nas CD containing lyrics including the n-word in several songs in the WalMart online store.

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The policy you're linked to simply outlines the RIAA policy of labels and further states that WalMart does not display album covers or song titles which contain profanity. Just the album or song title, they say nothing about the lyrics to the music itself.

 

I don't listen to hip hop and it took me less than 5 minutes to find a Nas CD containing lyrics including the n-word in several songs in the WalMart online store.

 

Yeah, its almost like walmart can do whatever the fug they want to

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But, if it's "in their nature" for young black men to use the word, I'm going to state the obvious-

It's been in the nature of "old white Southern people" to user the "n-word" longer than it has for young black men.

 

 

Just go ask some young women why they call each other "bitch", "slut", or "*****" amongst their friends (note this isn't all women, just like its not all blacks) but when a guy says it its out of line.

 

Its about context.  If you are insulting someone they won't like it, no matter what the word is.  Its the same word but it isn't used the same way.  I know black people (some of my friends) who have white buddys that use it all the time, but it isn't in an insulting manner.  Thats a new generation of people that didn't grow up in the same environment.

 

A question I would ask a white person that has an issue with this is why are they so protective of the n word? Are they aggravated that they can't say it and get mad when black people do? and why?  Black people don't use the n word to insult each other.  And we didn't even start the use of the word.

 

Personally, I don't care.  I honestly doesn't affect me, but I know good and well that my grandmother hates it and I understand why.

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A question I would ask a white person that has an issue with this is why are they so protective of the n word? Are they aggravated that they can't say it and get mad when black people do? and why?  Black people don't use the n word to insult each other.  And we didn't even start the use of the word.

 

 

 

I don't understand what you mean by "protective." I'm not sure about being aggravated because they can't say it. It's not a word I have in my vocabulary and I was taught old school, back in the 60's-70's.

 

Maybe white people take issue because they are never given the opportunity to explain, decide or otherwise use the "context" argument. White person says it, white person is racist- simple as that.

 

It's an interesting topic, for sure. And I think that at it's core- if we were to assemble a group of folks to open and honestly talk about it- we would certainly go a long way toward understanding some of the racial divide we have in this country today.

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