Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

What do you expect from this or any first round pick

Dirtyphill411

By Dirtyphill411,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

Dirtyphill411 Newbie

Dirtyphill411

Posted
Posted

Ok Lets be honest- all any team hopes for is for all their picks to

1. make the team- i.e. no drug/criminal/dog fighting issues

2. make the team- i.e. be able to produce

3. play on Sundays-

4. Become a starter

5. Become elite franchise type player

I just think it is ridiculous all the expectations surrounding this Brown kid-

everyone is jumping all over the FO because they traded a 12t NEXT year for a pick this year- A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush

Dont give me this "next years draft is sooo much better" spare me, how does anyone know how any of these picks will turn out

So far this Brown kid sounds from all accounts to be a Good Person, aha chek mark 1 down, FAST-FAST-FAST, aha check mark two down, AT LEAST a situational pass rusher, aha check mark three down

The failure rate of first round picks is 50% at best anyway so why not get first round talent now at a reduced price! Even if he is just a rotational guy, at his price it will be worth it cause he wont be cut/practice squad fodder and if he makes some sacks so be it-

I guess my point is that lets leave the jury out AT LEAST until next year- Besides if all goes well all we would have lost is the LAST pick in the First round anyway

Link to comment
Share on other sites
monstercat Newbie

monstercat

Posted
Posted

IMO, Brown doesn't even have to start right away to be successful. Just look at what Abraham is doing in Atlanta as a pass rush specialists. He is not an every down player, but he still has a big impact on every game. Even if he doesn't come in and get sacks, he usually draws attention away from the other D-linemen so they can take advantage of one on one match ups. If Brown can do that as a rookie, I'll be happy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted

First rounders should be able to come in an start.
either start or make an immediate impact/get a lot of PT.

TD, D-will and stewart didn't get the start but they were used pretty heavily.

williams was the only one that wasn't used enough right out of the gate and should have been the starter.

50% success rate for starters might be true on most other teams but the panthers have have pretty much a 100% (since dan morgan was drafted in 2001) and i don't see that changing anytime soon. with the exception of our 2000 pick all of our 1st rounders this decade either started right away or played an immediate large role on the team. dan morgan was the first that we lost and he stayed on the team 7 years.

i expect a lot out of brown...either starting (which is most likely the intention of fox/hurney) or at least seeing a lot more than 3rd downs. he will be used and used often. it may be a lot of pressure but i don't think that fox/hurney would have made the move to get him if they didn't think he could handle it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
monstercat Newbie

monstercat

Posted
Posted

Thomas Davis is the last Panthers 1st rounder that I can remember having a hard time breaking into the starting line up. That really wasn't his fault though, because he changed positions 3 times in his first TC. He was certainly no bust though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted

yeah, TD it was hard trying to find a role for TD on the roster but there was no question why they brought him in and that was to beat vick. they just had to find the best place for him to line up to do his spy work. i think they found it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Lone Buc Fan Newbie

Lone Buc Fan

Posted
Posted

About coming in and starting... I say it all depends on the position and depth. Alot of guys take their first year to just learn the speed of the game and develop as a stronger player down the line...

Even with Ben Roethlisberger, he was sitting on the bench... being groomed behind Tommy Maddox, Maddox goes down week 1 and Roeth is thrown into the fire (won 15 games his rookie season but his passing never really translated well until his 3rd year as a pro)

Not tryin to harp on Ben, but even like Peyton Manning... Peyton didn't do all that great to start his career off... Just get your guys use to the tempo of the game and bam... their talent comes out and speaks for themself.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
The Link Newbie

The Link

Posted
Posted

yeah, TD it was hard trying to find a role for TD on the roster but there was no question why they brought him in and that was to beat vick. they just had to find the best place for him to line up to do his spy work. i think they found it.

They may have brought him in for that, but he ended up becoming a very good all-around LB.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Squirrel Collaborator

Squirrel

Posted
Posted

About coming in and starting... I say it all depends on the position and depth. Alot of guys take their first year to just learn the speed of the game and develop as a stronger player down the line...

Even with Ben Roethlisberger, he was sitting on the bench... being groomed behind Tommy Maddox, Maddox goes down week 1 and Roeth is thrown into the fire (won 15 games his rookie season but his passing never really translated well until his 3rd year as a pro)

Not tryin to harp on Ben, but even like Peyton Manning... Peyton didn't do all that great to start his career off... Just get your guys use to the tempo of the game and bam... their talent comes out and speaks for themself.

Your talking about QB and we dont draft first round QB's here so I left them out. The rest of the postions was what I was talking about.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted

Your talking about QB and we dont draft first round QB's here so I left them out. The rest of the postions was what I was talking about.

that's part of the reason we haven't drafted a QB. fox/hurney wants people drafted in the 1st who can come in and start or make an immediate impact. that isn't likely going to happen with a QB. they save the later rounds for developmental picks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Navy_football
      Carolina Still Not Respected

      By Navy_football · Posted

      I guess so. Don't think I was involved with previous discussions.  Tepper is one of the newest owners in the NFL. Dan is going into his 3rd season as a GM - ever. Dave is going into his 3rd season as a HC - ever. Before becoming a HC, he was an OC/playcaller for one season total. Idzik is about to go into his 1st year as a play caller - ever. WRs are rookies, sophomores and 3rd year guys - though the experienced 3rd year guys are XL and Coker (who has missed a ton of games). TEs are guys going into their 2nd and 3rd seasons, and Tommy Tremble - though Sanders has missed a ton of games. QB has played 3 years. Chuba is an experienced RB, but Brooks and Etienne have taken very little snaps at the position. O-line is more experienced vets with some talent - which is HUGE. Need them to stay healthy. I mean the offense is very young in every aspect except O-line. You see it differently?
    • electro's horse
      The "now it's been three years" Grade for the 2023 Draft

      By electro's horse · Posted

      probably the 2nd worst draft in team history
    • tukafan21
      Strength of Schedule

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      I said this ALL last season and will say it again this year. Our record means diddly squat this year, I don't care if we have 0 wins or 17 wins, I only care about one thing and one thing only. Bryce proves without a shadow of a doubt that he IS or ISN'T our long term solution at QB. It's the only thing that matters for the same reason it sucks that this is the same thing as last year.  This needs to be determined, and if they can't determine it, then it's still telling the team the answer, just not the one they want to hear. As right now we're in the ultimate QB purgatory, a position that dooms franchises for years.  Just look at a team like the Cardinals, who extended a better QB and it still screwed them over and haven't had a contending team in a long time. People get too caught up on wins and losses when evaluating players, particularly QBs.  When people look at the final record and use that as a reason to want to extend a QB or not is just a fools errand.  If we had lost 2-3 more games last year because we didn't make a last second FG, I genuinely wonder if we would have just moved on from Bryce this offseason (like we should have been doing anyways IMHO).
×
×
  • Create New...