Kuechly Vs Coples

[ladypanther]

Ryan not happy with Coples' attitude.

Quinton Coples made a nice play in the second quarter of last night's preseason game against the Carolina Panthers, chasing down quarterback Cam Newton and knocking the ball free for a strip sack. He also had a good pressure of Newton in that half.

But coach Rex Ryan wasn't gushing about the Jets' first-round draft pick.

"I wasn’t as happy this game as I was previously," Ryan said. "I thought he kind of got winded a bit. He kind of had a 'woe is me' when we took out the starters. Hey look, you are still a rookie, you’ve got to play the whole game and then some."

Ryan added that he didn't like the way the Panthers ran the ball against the second-team defense. Coples also played with that unit.

The rookie defensive lineman out of North Carolina started tonight's game with Mike DeVito out with a calf injury. He got extra playing time beyond the starters' 2 1/2 quarters, as the Jets wanted to give their young players more experience.

Linebacker Bart Scott chalked up Coples' fatigue to the rookie learning curve.

"He's a rookie. He’ll figure it out," Scott said. "He just went through four weeks of long training. He’ll realize really what it takes to be successful in this league. We’ll get him. It’s a process."

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2012/08/rex_ryan_calls_out_quinton_cop.html

[panther4life]

How was it a dumb question?

I knew what everyone would say when comparing the players. But when you remove the players names and ask what make a bigger impact on defense tackling or QB Pressures, sacks, and deflected passes people would answer a different way.

The Vinzinni pic was simply elaborating that there is no right or wrong...

It's a dumb question because individual players make the impact, not the position that they play. Theres too many variables to make it a question where there is a right or wrong as your pic states.

and sorry to cut the covo short but personally once I come to the realization that another poster and I are not going to be able to see eye to eye and the only way things can go from here is an online pissing match, I gladly bow out..see you in another thread.

[rayzor]

easily kuechly....and it's not just homerism.

coples might have a few more sacks and exciting clips for a highlight reel, but kuechly is the guy that is going to have the biggest impact overall. coples is a big play guy, but we'll see that kuechly is that as well...but kuechly will bring more. crap...just the fact that kuechly will be on the field more will show that.

we may still need a pass rusher, but we made the team much stronger with the kuechly pick than we would have with coples. it may not be as sexy (as if anything with those brands on the arm could be considered anything but horrifying) but kuechly was the better pick.

[xerxes]

If it's a simple question of position value, then DE wins hands down.

To put it another way, if there was a Kuechly caliber DE (high motor, high character, ridiculous football instincts) on the board of course we would have drafted that guy. Trouble is, Coples isn't that guy.