Read this very bad thing about Rivera

[carolina-chuck]

Are you joking, a new fan or just want to give John Fox a shout out?

Pretty sure he was being serious.

Newbie probably when not knowing any history about this team. That's sad.

[carolina-chuck]

How about a list who made the playoffs in the last 10 years?

-Jim Harbaugh

-John Harbaugh

-John Fox 2years Super Bowl, last year Denver Divisional Rd

-Mike Smith

I can go more. Want me to?

Obviously Newbies doesn't know history or facts

[FirstRoundPick]

-Jim Harbaugh

-John Harbaugh

-John Fox 2years Super Bowl, last year Denver Divisional Rd

-Mike Smith

I can go more. Want me to?

Absolutly, but just so you know I was making a point about the other guys criteria. Superbowl shouldn't be the only measure of success. Maybe a little success in general would be good.

[CarolinaKittens]

Rivera has underwhelmed, to put it gently. The defense has imploded under him. Last year and thus far this year, we've consistently lost to teams with inferior talent AND inexperienced coaches. He seems like a decent enough guy, but average coach in this league he is not.

[carolina-chuck]

Can someone plz give me a list of head coaches who took over losing teams and went to a super bowl in 2 years.....

Add Mike Tomlin, he won a Super Bowl in two years. Do you know who Tomlin is?

[carolina-chuck]

Absolutly, but just so you know I was making a point about the other guys criteria. Superbowl shouldn't be the only measure of success. Maybe a little success in general would be good.

My bad

[Way Truth Life]

Well, I mean if you can't beat established teams as a rookie HC at the helm of a previously 2-14 team with a rookie QB coming off a lockout then what good are you?

Remember when the Skins went 1-15 in Gibbs first year?

2010 Denver Broncos were 4-12.....Fox managed to take them deep in the playoffs in 2011....go figure.

[The Huddler]

I think patience will prevail. Stickin with Rivera. Good things to those who wait

[Way Truth Life]

I think patience will prevail. Stickin with Rivera. Good things to those who wait

I disagree. A good coach grabs a team and leads it....that has not happened and won't.....when Steve Smith is having to discipline our #1 draft pick we have a problem. We need a GM and a coach...hell for that matter we need a new owner that actually cares about winning more than the bottom line.

[Argus Plexus]

If this team doesn't start getting their act together and FAST, this season is over.

[panther4life]

yea I have totally given up on this dude now.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

So, the guy wins 6 games with a rookie QB in a lockout season, and we are calling it terrible now?

Rivera's been pretty bad this season, but bringing up the fact that we beat rookie quarterbacks doesn't really invalidate the wins to me, seeing as how we had a rookie as well.

[ClawOn]

Yea I've posted the same thing in other threads. It matters who you beat. If you get to the playoffs then you're playing a good team.

Yes, we've had close losses. Coaching is critical in end-game pressure situations and that has been painfully lacking.

[ClawOn]

So, the guy wins 6 games with a rookie QB in a lockout season, and we are calling it terrible now?

Rivera's been pretty bad this season, but bringing up the fact that we beat rookie quarterbacks doesn't really invalidate the wins to me, seeing as how we had a rookie as well.

Fair point. My concern is that the trend has extended 5 games into year 2. At some point you have to beat a playoff-caliber team to be a playoff team, not just get the better of your fellow cellar dwellers.