My source has told me...

[koolkatluke]

So your argument is one of imaginary speculation, while mine is based on fact. Continue living in fantasy land, it doesn't change the fact that we haven't shown any interest in acquiring a second pass catching TE, so I see no reason to believe that our offensive philosophy is going to revert to a two TE set scheme.

edit: also, which scheme worked better? Well technically we had one more wins with one TE sets, and statistically Cam was about the same. Like I said, he plays more into Cam's natural ability to have dynamic players that can spread the field and attack downfield - which is why a dynamic and FAST slot receiver would do wonders for him and our offense.

1. You don't know what scheme we will run so how is any of your poo a fact???

2. We were a top 5 offense in the 2 TE set. We weren't in the 1 TE set. That's fact.

Notice the difference.

[koolkatluke]

The fact is Adams isn't a Gettlmen pick. And if Gman thinks Tavon is BPA or is a major upgrade, then he couldnt careless about Joe. And why should he? He has no ties to the kid.

Well I would hope he would have no attachment to this DT group and secondary group in the same way. Which IMO should be more of importance then a slot WR.

[La Pantera]

Well I would hope he would have no attachment to this DT group and secondary group in the same way. Which IMO should be more of importance then a slot WR.

So you don't think anyone else will be added to those positions? We've added 3 to the secondary. 1 to DT (though coleman may not stick). I'm sure players will be added through the draft and FA after the draft. Then we may find someone after cuts start. We're far from done. And we have a much more solid base now, than last year.

[iamhubby1]

They are both Slot WR which is the same importance as a #2 TE. Why would we put more importance on that position?

Austin is much more than just a slot receiver. Whereas, Adams was primarily a returner. Saying they both are slot guys, which equates to a 2nd TE?, is pigeonholing to make your own point sound valid. If Adams hadn't disappointed last year, we may not even be discussing Austin. Then again, maybe we are discussing Austin because he is a WR with returner ability. Adams is a returner with very little Wr ability. Two very different cats.

[koolkatluke]

Um yeah it did. Wasn't long after the ATL game he was relegated to early downs. Martin was brought in on passing downs. Then after Sherrod went down, Godfrey moved over and the rook stared at SS. It may not have been soon enough, but it did happen.

Naka started and played in 13 games so he still got playing time even thoe he was the worst safety in the league.

Adams only got action in 3 games. Big difference in opportunities there.

[koolkatluke]

Austin is much more than just a slot receiver. Whereas, Adams was primarily a returner. Saying they both are slot guys, which equates to a 2nd TE?, is pigeonholing to make your own point sound valid. If Adams hadn't disappointed last year, we may not even be discussing Austin. Then again, maybe we are discussing Austin because he is a WR with returner ability. Adams is a returner with very little Wr ability. Two very different cats.

He is a slot Wr just like adams. Austin has potential to be the very best but that's all he is.

And Adams had 50 rec. his last 2 years in college meaning he was more then just a "Primary returner".

He seems to be doing a lot of lining up at WR and making plays as a slot in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJR0HCaey8

[koolkatluke]

So you don't think anyone else will be added to those positions? We've added 3 to the secondary. 1 to DT (though coleman may not stick). I'm sure players will be added through the draft and FA after the draft. Then we may find someone after cuts start. We're far from done. And we have a much more solid base now, than last year.

No the problem is I'm sick and tried of this approach to this position. Later round Draft picks and throw a ways from other teams. How has that worked out for us?

When will we see what other people see so clearly?? We need to put more resources into this position like teams who make the playoffs year in and year out do.

[iamhubby1]

He is a slot Wr just like adams. Austin has potential to be the very best but that's all he is.

And Adams had 50 rec. his last 2 years in college meaning he was more then just a "Primary returner".

He seems to be doing a lot of lining up at WR and making plays as a slot in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJR0HCaey8

I am truly sorry, but I am not going to compare a 4th round Adams, with suspect hands. To a 1st rounder whose only knock is his size. To very different talent levels. ...........The only thing Adams does consistently is be inconsistent. I watched Adams in college and was excited to see him as a Panther. But he did the same thing last year he did in college. He has ball control problems. If he fixes that, he may have a shot. If he doesn't fix it, he could be gone. IMO,Austin is a huge upgrade over Adams.

[Verge]

Verge, would we take Hayden if he fell to us, or is your source set about Austin or Vaccaro?

I was told if Austin or Vaccaro are on the board, it is the pick, though I suppose things can change. I personally like Hayden over Vaccaro but not Austin.

[Verge]

Being told we like both guards and Fluker over Patterson. Odd.

[koolkatluke]

I am truly sorry, but I am not going to compare a 4th round Adams, with suspect hands. To a 1st rounder whose only knock is his size. To very different talent levels. ...........The only thing Adams does consistently is be inconsistent. I watched Adams in college and was excited to see him as a Panther. But he did the same thing last year he did in college. He has ball control problems. If he fixes that, he may have a shot. If he doesn't fix it, he could be gone. IMO,Austin is a huge upgrade over Adams.

My problem isn't with a player it's with the position.

I agree that Austin is a better player then Adams. My problem is does a slot Wr warrant the importance of a top 15 pick. It hasn't never before. I could also see this if we were going to run a offense that passes the ball 70% of the time. But that's not the case. We will run the ball just as much as we pass it. So what makes the slot wr more important then a DT or secondary or TE or Oline??

[koolkatluke]

Being told we like both guards and Fluker over Patterson. Odd.

Thank god.

What's the plan at DT. More bandaides and late round picks until we get lucky???

[iamhubby1]

Being told we like both guards and Fluker over Patterson. Odd.

If you are looking for starting material, this move makes sense. If you are going off potential, odd is the right word. Big guys and TD makers. This makes Gettle sense. I don't like it, don't like it one little bit. No guards in the first please.

[Verge]

Thank god.

What's the plan at DT. More bandaides and late round picks until we get lucky???

I think they are comfortable with what they have to be honest, though I do not truly have an answer for what they want to do at that spot.