Shula says Newton ready to take big step forward

[AceBoogie]

Spoken like someone who does not yet understand maturity....not meant as an insult.

 

There is a BIG difference in becoming OK with losing vs. being more level in how you express your emotions (verbally and non-verbally) and how that impacts how you lead others.

 

That fire and drive to win is as strong as ever internally.....you just learn to externally express those emotions differently.

 

I, like Shula, think that Cam will take big steps this year.....and it will be in how he leads this team.

First you can't insult someone then say it isn't meant as an insult....but umm yea it's cool. What I'm saying is this on one hand you have a guy like Cam who takes losing personally and he rejects it and shows it. On the other hand you have those players laughing and joking on the sideline when your down by 30. Thats why i said its a fine line and you have to find the middle ground.

 

Everyone pouts a lil bit when your that competitive and your losing. The difference is that those other guys win more. I would love to see Peyton's attitude if his team is in the middle of a seven game losing streak. Winning cures all.

 

[Who Said What?]

There is just such a fine line there. I don't want Cam to get to the point where he accepts losing. The only way to really cure that is to win more. You ever seen Brady, Rodgers, or Peyton during a loss on the bench? Their is definitely some "sulking" going on there.

 

i am with you 100% maine.  Alot of my friends know I have been a Newton fan since Auburn and they kept talking about him sulking as well as the press conferences.  It was the same on the huddle.  I was like he does not need to learn how to lose.  Jordan cried after being ousted from the playoffs by the Pistons.  Champions never learn to lose.  Hell, you got Brady's wife calling out recievers and Peyton blaming losses on the o-line and the kicker in Indy.  Cutler is shoving lineman and Phillip Rivers has the sportsmanship of an infant.  In the midst of all of these QBs doing this well into their careers, none of them have been scrutinized as bad as Newton.  I have said this over and over.  If I  was doing exactly what the coaches were telling me with no room to audible and losing all while they never defended me publicly, I would have been just like Cam.  Hence the "Its the same script over and over and I'm not buying it".  Roughly translated, I am tired of the same ole same ole and I am not buying into it.  Without Chud's arbitrary creativity and some freedom at the line of scrimmage, Cam will excel on the field and learn to "walk the company line" during press conferences like butt fumble(Sanchez).

[Who Said What?]

First you can't insult someone then say it isn't meant as an insult....but umm yea it's cool. What I'm saying is this on one hand you have a guy like Cam who takes losing personally and he rejects it and shows it. On the other hand you have those players laughing and joking on the sideline when your down by 30. Thats why i said its a fine line and you have to find the middle ground.

 

Everyone pouts a lil bit when your that competitive and your losing. The difference is that those other guys win more. I would love to see Peyton's attitude if his team is in the middle of a seven game losing streak. Winning cures all.

 

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You should start a thread with nothing but this pic.

[Creep59]

Spoken like someone who does not yet understand maturity....not meant as an insult.

 

There is a BIG difference in becoming OK with losing vs. being more level in how you express your emotions (verbally and non-verbally) and how that impacts how you lead others.

 

That fire and drive to win is as strong as ever internally.....you just learn to externally express those emotions differently.

 

I, like Shula, think that Cam will take big steps this year.....and it will be in how he leads this team.

 

 

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[OchoNueve]

Can you imagine what a big step forward for Cam's game would do for Mike Shula's career?

 

With a stud QB like Cam and the records that he has already set/broken thus far are we going to be at risk of losing our new OC to a head coaching job again in 2-3 years?  If Cam makes "big steps" in improvement, Shula will be the hot name on the market in a few seasons.

[MadHatter]

First you can't insult someone then say it isn't meant as an insult....but umm yea it's cool. What I'm saying is this on one hand you have a guy like Cam who takes losing personally and he rejects it and shows it. On the other hand you have those players laughing and joking on the sideline when your down by 30. Thats why i said its a fine line and you have to find the middle ground.

 

Everyone pouts a lil bit when your that competitive and your losing. The difference is that those other guys win more. I would love to see Peyton's attitude if his team is in the middle of a seven game losing streak. Winning cures all.

 

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First....I absolutely did not mean it as an insult.  I meant it in the context that I believe you are still a very young guy and still look at everything very emotionally.

 

I NEVER want Cam to stop taking losing personally.  Far from it.  I want him to loathe it and to hold those around him to the same level of accountability.

 

I don't want to see him laughing and joking on the sidelines when the team is not performing.

 

However, Shula is making the point that you can't get too low after the bad plays just like you can't get too high over the good ones.

 

I want to see him on the sidelines talking with his OLinemen....talking with his WR's....looking at the snapshots of the plays with his coaches.  Let his team mates know when they are letting each other down.  Showing them that he is all about learning from the last bad play.

 

That is the growth and maturity that I believe Shula is talking about.

[carpantherfan84]

First....I absolutely did not mean it as an insult. I meant it in the context that I believe you are still a very young guy and still look at everything very emotionally.

I NEVER want Cam to stop taking losing personally. Far from it. I want him to loathe it and to hold those around him to the same level of accountability.

I don't want to see him laughing and joking on the sidelines when the team is not performing.

However, Shula is making the point that you can't get too low after the bad plays just like you can't get too high over the good ones.

I want to see him on the sidelines talking with his OLinemen....talking with his WR's....looking at the snapshots of the plays with his coaches. Let his team mates know when they are letting each other down. Showing them that he is all about learning from the last bad play.

That is the growth and maturity that I believe Shula is talking about.

The media didn't show it but he did that from the beginning. It's hard for any of us to make a declarative statement about Cams interaction with his teammates when we are not his teammates.

Quotes like Shula's and Steve's from the past are usually excerpts from longer statements praising Cam against questions designed to get a negative response.

[TheRed]

Maybe it's me, but I really feel like Shula and Newton are gel well, and now that Shula is calling the plays, I think they will be a great tandem. Hopeful,y this season is the start to something amazing!

Have to agree. I wasn't a fan of the hire initially but I do like that they have a good understanding of each other.

My biggest gripe with Chud was being too detached from his offense on gamedays, and it was his way or else.

[bleys]

the sky is blue, water is wet, and you in fact cannot sell water to a well.

[beastson]

I wish we could push the NFL season up by one month

[rainwater]

Newton wasn't at the team's rookie minicamp this weekend

 

How dare he.  Talk about lazy.

[Razeyfingers]

Cam gets criticism because. . .  he's young and reporters need to sound like they know what theyre talking about. I know many of our fans would like to say its because x y or z (race, attitude, history at such and such place). The bottom line is that its getting very fuggin hard to capture audiences to buy your poo. There are so many options now. In five years you wont be watching the tonight show at 10 o clock. . . . you'll be watching some lil old 70 year old lady, wise cracking about the world while she cooks.

 

K well not quite, but there is some rationality to that. So, if you have a whole wave that poo going on and you're a dude in the news business (oh what a business it is), you figure "eh whats gonna sell  . well everyone else is talking about that Newton kid. Bam easy target. . he's young, he's showing emotion, and the public wants to know about him."

 

I find that the reason why T3bow is hard to criticize in front of most women is that he doesnt show a lot of negative emotions like frustration or anger. He doesnt appear to have any negative behavioral tendencies in their eyes so they wonder why a guy would look at him and say anything bad. In Cam's case he's young and doesnt mind showing both sides of his competitiveness. There's nothing wrong with that, but because he's young, an enterprising "reporter"  can easily connect the dots for his/her "even bigger idiots than you" fans. Its an easy sell.

[TheRed]

Cam gets criticism because. . . he's young and reporters need to sound like they know what theyre talking about. I know many of our fans would like to say its because x y or z (race, attitude, history at such and such place). The bottom line is that its getting very fuggin hard to capture audiences to buy your poo. There are so many options now. In five years you wont be watching the tonight show at 10 o clock. . . . you'll be watching some lil old 70 year old lady, wise cracking about the world while she cooks.

K well not quite, but there is some rationality to that. So, if you have a whole wave that poo going on and you're a dude in the news business (oh what a business it is), you figure "eh whats gonna sell . well everyone else is talking about that Newton kid. Bam easy target. . he's young, he's showing emotion, and the public wants to know about him."

I find that the reason why T3bow is hard to criticize in front of most women is that he doesnt show a lot of negative emotions like frustration or anger. He doesnt appear to have any negative behavioral tendencies in their eyes so they wonder why a guy would look at him and say anything bad. In Cam's case he's young and doesnt mind showing both sides of his competitiveness. There's nothing wrong with that, but because he's young, an enterprising "reporter" can easily connect the dots for his/her "even bigger idiots than you" fans. Its an easy sell.

What the hell did I just read.

[Razeyfingers]

What the hell did I just read.

 

that its easy for reporters to sell the idea of Cam being immature.