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8-6-13 Training Camp


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@josephperson: #Panthers practice this morning has been moved to Wofford's Gibbs Stadium.

@Panthers: Due to the weather, practice this morning will be held at Gibbs Stadium, not at the lower fields. #PanthersCamp

@woffordcollege: Practice has been moved to Gibbs Stadium. No Panthers Pals this morning.

@Panthers: Football practice on a rainy morning. #PanthersCamp http://t.co/eko2JDewiJ

@jjones9: Panthers practice moved to the stadium. Field is wet, but looks like the rain is over

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@jjones9: Kugbila not in pads today

@jjones9: Ginn not in pads either

@CarolinaHuddle: @jjones9 growing feeling Kugzilla will end up on IR this season.

@jjones9: Hixon not in pads. Had leg cramps Friday and hasn't seen field since.

@Panthers: Ginn, Hixon, Shaw, Pianalto, Thomas, Tolbert, D. Williams, Beason, Stewart and Kugbila are not practicing today.

@jjones9: Full list RT @Panthers: Ginn, Hixon, Shaw, Pianalto, Thomas, Tolbert, D. Williams, Beason, Stewart and Kugbila aren't practicing today

@jjones9: Won't know why some of those guys are sitting out until we talk to Ron after practice

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@PanthersMax: Big opportunity for young RBs today with DeAngelo Williams and Mike Tolbert both not practicing.

@PanthersMax: @SigmundBloom Poole has had a nice camp. Barner in particular has been very impressive so far.

@PanthersMax: With veteran RBs out, rookie Kenjon Barner is the first one up for 9-on-9 drill.

@PanthersMax: @JacobR31 @sdanner52 Poole was next RB up

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@mikepersinger: Live updates from Panthers training camp here. Mobile friendly. http://t.co/vV2H5PSToz

@josephperson: Eddie Fogler, Former Gamecocks basketball coach, also is at practice

@Panthers: Former Giants GM Ernie Accorsi is attending practice today. Accorsi served as a consultant when the #Panthers hired Dave Gettleman.

@jjones9: And former UNC assistant RT @josephperson: Eddie Fogler, Former Gamecocks basketball coach, also is at practice.

@Panthers: "@Gil_Brandt of the @nflnetwork is also at #PanthersCamp practice today.

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@josephperson: Panthers injured list is growing: Hixon, Ginn, Stewart, Kugbila, Tolbert, Thomas, Beason, Shaw.

@josephperson: DeAngelo Williams also sitting out: Might just be a day off

@SteveReedAP: DeAngelo Williams out today along w/ Jonathan Stewart, Mike Tolbert, Domenik Hixon, Ted Ginn, Jon Beason, Edmund Kugbila & Josh Thomas.

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