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Best thing taken from last night.......IMO


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I'm not ready to bless the team as a Super Bowl contender just yet, but what is gratifying is that we aren't far off being an annual challenger for the title! When I say this, it's in terms of having a core that is shaping up to build off.

I still say that next draft, we do what it takes to grab Clowney and trade away CJ! Saves a lot of money at the position short term and makes us better. However, infuse a stud LT, another solid CB, and a true #1 WR and we are just as good as any other team in the NFL on paper

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OL looked solid.

LB is deep and talented.

DL played very well and had nice depth.

DB play was solid

Cam looked fine

Barner is fast and shifty, but needs to work on not fumbling

No injuries

Although we has 4 turnovers and were a little sloppy, I will take it for pre season ge #1.

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Wth? There is some misunderstanding here!

Any of you that Clowney will not be better than CJ need to pull off the homer glasses! CJ is getting older and way too much money tied up in him! The trade ends with CJ and some draft picks

Do you realize what and how much you would have to trade to get to, what will most likely be the 1st pick of the 1st round...???

This is pure fantasy!

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Do you realize what and how much you would have to trade to get to, what will most likely be the 1st pick of the 1st round...???

This is pure fantasy!

I know it would never happen, but it would be some Gettlemajic if so! Either way, people are reading into my little fantasy GM insert

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