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John Clayton: “I don’t know that the Panthers can put up enough offense against SF’s defense.”

Wednesday on 95.7 The Game, John Clayton broke down the upcoming 49ers-Panthers game. Here is a transcript.

Q: How good is the Carolina team that comes to Candlestick on Sunday?

 

CLAYTON: “They’re good. They have some holes but they’ve started to turn the corner. You could see from the very first week that their front-seven may not be as good on defense as San Francisco’s, but it’s in the same shadow. I mean, it’s pretty good. It’s probably one of the top-two, three or four front-sevens in the league. San Francisco has the best in my opinion.

 

“Then you start to look at some of the things that are developing on offense – Cam Newton’s getting more confidence. Now, he doesn’t have a lot of weapons. San Francisco, until they get Manningham and Crabtree back on the field permanently, they don’t have the kind of weapons either, so there is a similarity there.

 

“The big hole that the Panthers have is in the secondary. They’re really patching the safety spot, patching the cornerback spot. The front-seven covers for it.

 

“I don’t know that the Panthers can put up enough offense against San Francisco’s defense. If that’s going to be the case, it should be a San Francisco win. But Carolina is a good team. I think they’re definitely in the hunt for the Wild Card.”

 

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2013/11/inside-the-49ers/john-clayton-i-dont-know-that-the-panthers-can-put-up-enough-offense-against-sfs-defense/

 

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49ers’ magic numbers vs. Panthers

Here are some stats which may inform our discussion of the 49ers’ upcoming Week 10 game against the Panthers.

Rushing attempts per game:

49ers: 33.8 (1st in NFL)

Panthers: 32.6 (3rd)

 

Rushing yards per carry:

49ers: 4.5 (9th)

Panthers: 4.0 (18th)

 

Yards per carry allowed:

49ers: 3.9 (11th)

Panthers: 3.7 (6th)

 

Passer rating allowed on play action passes:

49ers: 80.1

Panthers: 97.8

 

Opponent’s third down conversion percentage:

49ers: 33.04 (3rd)

Panthers: 36.27 (11th)

 

Passer rating on play action passes:

Colin Kaepernick: 114.3 (6th)

Cam Newton: 127.2 (3rd)

 

Third down conversion percentage:

49ers: 40.19 (11th)

Panthers: 47.0 (3rd)

 

Passing when blitzed:

Kaepernick: 42 for 75 (56.o %), 621 yards, 7 TDs, 1 INT, 108.8 rating.

Newton: 60 for 99 (60.6 %), 695 yards, 5 TDs, 5 INTs, 77.6 rating.

 

Passing when not blitzed:

Kaepernick: 71 for 123 (57.7 %), 963 yards, 2 TDs, 4 INTs, 74.7 rating.

Newton: 94 for 140 (67.1 %), 1106 yards, 8 TDs, 2 INTs, 104.0 rating.

 

Composite record of opponents each team has beaten:

49ers: 18-30

Panthers: 8-33

 

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2013/11/inside-the-49ers/49ers-magic-numbers-vs-panthers/

 

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Seahawks fans were bad but they:

1.) Gave us respect after the game because they knew we were the better team and dodged a Week 1 bullet.

 

2.) At least 1 fan acknowledged that they had a tough game in front of them. The 49ner fans think their team is the 85' Bears the way they talk because they blewout the Jags.

 

We've done the same to bad teams as well but at least we're honest about it, we aren't talking about going into Candlestick and blowing them out, hell half us think we don't have a good chance to win, but not a single 49ners fan think the Panthers have a chance and feel disrespected to be told different. Sound like a bunch of "fans" that didn't start watching football til a season and a half ago... oh wait.. they are.

 

Absolutely not true. I don't know where you guys are reading that 49ers fans think this is going to be a walk through, but it's simply not true.

 

If you're not on the official 49ers messageboard, then you're getting quotes from the 3rd party boards that cuss each other out more than they discuss football.

 

Plus, let's be honest, EVERY team has homers that say they're going to win by 40 every week. PIcking out some quotes from some 21 year old keyboard jockey that says, "OMGzzz we will kill da Panthers. Niners 50-0 lulz" isn't exactly quoting the most knowledgeable fan.

 

Let me tell you this, most of the 49er fans on the official board are saying this game will be tough. Most of them think Carolina and SF are pretty similar, and most think we could very easily lose this game. I'm a die hard 49ers fan that watches every snap from preseason on and has since I could walk and I'm telling you this game has me worried. I think we can win, but I think we can lose. I posted all of the reasons on another post, so I won't do that here, but just let me say this: don't pay attention to the idiots saying we're guaranteed a win. Half of them don't know the difference between a strong safety and a free safety, and most of them watch nothing but 49ers games.

 

Just let me put it to rest: the 49ers AND their fans KNOW this is going to be an extremely hard game.

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49ers’ magic numbers vs. Panthers

 

Here are some stats which may inform our discussion of the 49ers’ upcoming Week 10 game against the Panthers.

Rushing attempts per game:

49ers: 33.8 (1st in NFL)

Panthers: 32.6 (3rd)

 

Rushing yards per carry:

49ers: 4.5 (9th)

Panthers: 4.0 (18th)

 

Yards per carry allowed:

49ers: 3.9 (11th)

Panthers: 3.7 (6th)

 

Passer rating allowed on play action passes:

49ers: 80.1

Panthers: 97.8

 

Opponent’s third down conversion percentage:

49ers: 33.04 (3rd)

Panthers: 36.27 (11th)

 

Passer rating on play action passes:

Colin Kaepernick: 114.3 (6th)

Cam Newton: 127.2 (3rd)

 

Third down conversion percentage:

49ers: 40.19 (11th)

Panthers: 47.0 (3rd)

 

Passing when blitzed:

Kaepernick: 42 for 75 (56.o %), 621 yards, 7 TDs, 1 INT, 108.8 rating.

Newton: 60 for 99 (60.6 %), 695 yards, 5 TDs, 5 INTs, 77.6 rating.

 

Passing when not blitzed:

Kaepernick: 71 for 123 (57.7 %), 963 yards, 2 TDs, 4 INTs, 74.7 rating.

Newton: 94 for 140 (67.1 %), 1106 yards, 8 TDs, 2 INTs, 104.0 rating.

 

Composite record of opponents each team has beaten:

49ers: 18-30

Panthers: 8-33

 

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2013/11/inside-the-49ers/49ers-magic-numbers-vs-panthers/

 

 

Cohn with some relevant info that doesn't involve badmouthing us. Huh, who knew?

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I dont see what the big deal is.  Every message board has idiots that post on it... this one included.

 

Already seeing some classy (honest, not sarcastic) 49ers fans hanging around, which is more than i can say for most teams.

 

I don't blame them for thinking they're going to win.  They're one of the best teams in the NFL and are coming off a Superbowl... so they've also got a ton of crazy bandwagoners that think they're going to blow every team out...

 

I mean, this message board has gone from predicting we'll get blown out by the Giants to predicting we're going to go 13-3.  Winning breeds confidence, often way over the top confidence. :P

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Did no one read the grant land article. Every team in the Super Bowl era that has won four games in a row by a margin of more than 20 points and scored more than 30 in those victories have gone to the playoffs and only two didn't make it to the Super Bowl.

Two teams have done that this year, the Panthers, and the Broncos. There's your Super Bowl folks.

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49ers’ magic numbers vs. Panthers

 

Here are some stats which may inform our discussion of the 49ers’ upcoming Week 10 game against the Panthers.

Rushing attempts per game:

49ers: 33.8 (1st in NFL)

Panthers: 32.6 (3rd)

 

Rushing yards per carry:

49ers: 4.5 (9th)

Panthers: 4.0 (18th)

 

Yards per carry allowed:

49ers: 3.9 (11th)

Panthers: 3.7 (6th)

 

Passer rating allowed on play action passes:

49ers: 80.1

Panthers: 97.8

 

Opponent’s third down conversion percentage:

49ers: 33.04 (3rd)

Panthers: 36.27 (11th)

 

Passer rating on play action passes:

Colin Kaepernick: 114.3 (6th)

Cam Newton: 127.2 (3rd)

 

Third down conversion percentage:

49ers: 40.19 (11th)

Panthers: 47.0 (3rd)

 

Passing when blitzed:

Kaepernick: 42 for 75 (56.o %), 621 yards, 7 TDs, 1 INT, 108.8 rating.

Newton: 60 for 99 (60.6 %), 695 yards, 5 TDs, 5 INTs, 77.6 rating.

 

Passing when not blitzed:

Kaepernick: 71 for 123 (57.7 %), 963 yards, 2 TDs, 4 INTs, 74.7 rating.

Newton: 94 for 140 (67.1 %), 1106 yards, 8 TDs, 2 INTs, 104.0 rating.

 

Composite record of opponents each team has beaten:

49ers: 18-30

Panthers: 8-33

 

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2013/11/inside-the-49ers/49ers-magic-numbers-vs-panthers/

 

 

Not talking smack here, but has your team played a team with a defense the likes of the Panthers defense?

 

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Also Arizona and stomped them. They got a couple cheap scores late but we waxed them, and they stomped you guys. It goes both ways.

Arizona isn't top 10 in yards or points. Only Seattle and you got stomped

And we were up on AZ after the first half despite dropping an open TD pass on a drive and a 4th down in the red zone on another ....we imploded late and the score snowballed at the end.

So the question was if you have played a comparable D.... Answer is only Seattle. AZ isn't

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Arizona isn't top 10 in yards or points. Only Seattle and you got stomped

And we were up on AZ after the first half despite dropping an open TD pass on a drive and a 4th down in the red zone on another ....we imploded late and the score snowballed at the end.

So the question was if you have played a comparable D.... Answer is only Seattle. AZ isn't

 

Arizona's defense is constantly put in short field positions because Palmer turns the ball over more than just about anyone in the NFL. You can't go by points or total yards when your offense puts you on the field a ton and puts you in bad positions.

 

You have to look deeper at the stats to get an accurate picture. The Cardinals are tied for the 6th best defense (tied with Carolina) in the league in yards per play. Seattle #2. Texans #3.

 

We have 2 common opponents, you got beat by both of them, we are 1-1.

 

And you use excuses for missed opportunities to explain your loss to Arizona, and I could do the same with Seattle. We left so many points on the field it was ridiculous. And you're hanging your hat on a loss at home. Try going to Seattle and playing. You're 7 points in the hole when you walk in the door there.

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