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[footballisasport]

I don't think they're that similar as passers at all.  Luck is definitely more consistent with his accuracy, but he doesn't have Cam's arm.  Luck is still the more polished pocket passer at this point.  The biggest issue both guys have right now is a weak WR corps.

 

If you seriously believe that then why aren't both of them under the same HOT microscope.

 

There is a reason why we will continue to see Cam's every throw and body language on the field get scrutinized as if he's at the Combine, while Luck continues to be painted as the QB who has it all together and HOF bound. You never created a negative image in folks heads about someone you want to present in a certain light....Psycholog 101.

 

It's easier to believe Cam is weaker than Luck because he's being portrayed that way. And let's be honest, some folks will never have a problem with that.

 

I said it before and I'll say it again, if you check Cam's first three seasons, they are very close if not better than Peyton's at the same stage of his Pro football career. Yet Peyton was already receiving MVP awards by his third season. Something Cam should be doing also. But we all know why he's not! 

 

Don't be surprised if Luck's name start getting thrown around next season as leading the MVP awards, his third season as a Pro. Those in the media seem hell-bent on keeping him on pace with everything Peyton. To bad they cannot ever admit that Luck inherited a team Peyton already built. Must keep the Peyton image going the way they are going out of their way to keep the Vince Young image going with Cam. 

[TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam]

Why are people slamming Rosenthal? He's been on our bandwagon all year.

[footballisasport]

Luck is Marino/Manning/Elway/S.Young 2.0 according to the hype, and Cam is JaMarcus/V.Young/Vick/Brooks 2.0. That's the perception. Add to fact that Newton isn't liked (a portion of our own fanbase hates him) no matter what he does, and well...

 

Now that's a damn shame right there. I wonder why there is such hate towards him by fans whose team he is helping. And please don't tell me such things as him doing the Superman pose or smiling to much or any other thing that has nothing to do with anything. That's straight stupid and immature.

 

I seriously hate to believe that most of it is racially motivated; so I will pretend that it's because majority of the folks seriously hold strong to their college football teams.

[FootballMaestro]

I mean, they point to the celebrations and his demeanor but that's bullcrap. The excuse for Brady and Rodgers to do it is lame. Brady was whining and Rodgers was discount double-checking before they won a title. Newton can win a Super Bowl but he'll still be called immature and selfish.

I think apart of it is racial but most of it is because they hate what Cam represents. He's not articulate like Peyton Manning, he's not as humble as Russell Wilson, he's not married with kids like Phillip Rivers, etc.

 

What does Cam represent:

 

He's good Looking (No Homo)

Hard Working

Well Conditioned (no Homo)

Exciting

Was raised right (very respectful, receptive to coaching). 

Loves to have fun

 

What's not to like about a player like that?

 

It doesn't matter what you say all those other guys are vs Cam. These are all Cam's attributes.  

 

Obviously, it's the media changing/tainting these ideas. Where are these people getting the hate from otherwise (beyond Auburn vs Alabama, and his fathers alleged, unproven shake down)?

 

In comparison: Andrew Luck, is not so attractive, inarticulate, and boring. What's so good about that?

 

Nonetheless, I believe Cam will get his proper do if/when the Panthers keep on winning, and especially if they win the Super bowl. Because at that point, there will/would be too many witnesses, who would have seen Cam "Do His Thing", just like we do. 

[tiger7_88]

I don't think they're that similar as passers at all.  Luck is definitely more consistent with his accuracy

 

 

2012: Luck 54.1 completion %; Cam 57.4%.

 

2013: Luck 59.5%; Cam 62.1%.

 

Maybe you're a believer in the same myth that the sports media chooses to propagate?

[tiger7_88]

You guys are STILL butthurt about stuff like this? Jesus H. Christ.

 

 

Sorry we're proving that your white cracker favorite isn't any better than your favorite whipping boy, BB.

 

OK, I lied... I'm not sorry.

[tiger7_88]

Dear God. Another thread on the huddle bitching about some taking head who is. "Dissing your QB".

Why do you guys care so much about this? You can't control it and it does not impact anything in our lives.

 

 

You seem to care a lot in regard to the converse.

 

A LOT.

 

Why is that?

[tiger7_88]

Meh, you can keep this silly ranking stuff - I'll take the 2nd seed in the playoffs. 

 

 

I'll take the 1st seed.

 

You giving up already?

[FootballMaestro]

Sorry we're proving that your white cracker favorite isn't any better than your favorite whipping boy, BB.

 

OK, I lied... I'm not sorry.

The Irony Is: Huddler's post practically every thing they read, not just Cam stuff, regarding player ratings or analysis (hell even regarding, coaching, ownerships and the crowd).

 

Nonetheless,  it's funny how when a Cam article is posted, all of a sudden, Huddler's are "butt hurt". 

 

Huddler's talk about everything (including their--GASP--#1 pick, all pro, much talked about QB). It's just "Sumtin ta do", till the next game. 

[Davidson Deac II]

You're missing the point. No one in this thread is saying luck sucks. However every measurable category says cam is better than luck but these "experts" can't stop picking luck over cam.

 

Not every category.  Luck has a better interception percentage and a better td to interception ratio.  Luck also gets sacked a lot less.  That's probably because he tends to throw it away more instead of trying to outrun the defense and make a big play.  Of course, that is a wash because while Cam gets sacked more, he also tends to make big scramble plays sometimes. 

 

 

That being said, its an opinion. The numbers indicate that both are pretty good qb's, so I can see his point.  I am just glad we have a qb that is in the discussion irt best young qb's. 

[Evengelion]

What does Cam, RG3, Teddy Bridgewater, and Jameis Winston all have in common?

 

They've all been compared to Luck. And they will all be 'ranked' at some point below Luck. The media is firm on pushing it's egalitarian idea on the masses. How can a second year guy with average stats(can't complete 60% of his passed) be the standard to a bunch of young, talented, up and coming athletes? You tell me. The media is just trolling right now.

[footballisasport]

I mean, they point to the celebrations and his demeanor but that's bullcrap. The excuse for Brady and Rodgers to do it is lame. Brady was whining and Rodgers was discount double-checking before they won a title. Newton can win a Super Bowl but he'll still be called immature and selfish.

I think apart of it is racial but most of it is because they hate what Cam represents. He's not articulate like Peyton Manning, he's not as humble as Russell Wilson, he's not married with kids like Phillip Rivers, etc.

 

He sounds way more articulate than Luck, but that will never be admitted. How does having a natural confident image make him any less humble than Russell? And he's 24!!! He doesn't need to be Philip Rivers with his brood and wife. So you're basically saying those who are hating on Cam really don't have any good reason to hate him outside of the fact that he fits nicely into a negative stereotypical mold.

 

When will folks realize that disguising their true agendas with shallow nit-picking, will say more about them than the person they are intentionally trying to destroy with such hate. All of what you said does sadly show a lot of racism being directed at Cam no matter how you try to spin it. Folks simply go along with the shallow arguments against Cam becuse they know if they call a spade a spade they will be slammed and they themselves with be smeared for pointing out the very OBVIOUS. Perfect example was how the media and many on here handled what Warren Moon stated about the media's treatment of Cam. The pitchfolks and fire came out in numbers, not only by those in the media but way a whole lot on this site.  

 

But truth told, when you look at those who are treating Cam with such scorn and dishonest spins, 99% of them are white.  Even more, look at the majority of those who are not only willingly to accepting the negative spin on Cam but in turn feeding it with their own dishonest spins, they to are mostly white also.That is a FACT that is hard to overlook. Some refuse to acknowledge how much this team has grown since Cam arrived but will look for anything to say like "he's good enough;" while demanding more out of him and using his natural gifts to help hide the Panthers' weaknesses on both sides of the ball.

 

It's sad to see the issues that still plagued this league for so many years still do but now we're forced to tolerate it.

[Evengelion]

I think Luck and Cam are virtually the same type of passer. Newton, of course, is more athletic. The difference between them is one has been groomed to 'replace' a future HOFer and the other has been presented in a negative light before even taking a snap.

Completely false. Luck struggles mightily to reach a 60% completion percentage playing in a dome. Mightily!

 

Luck is really good....I dunno why some of y'all can't get over that.

I've seen Luck play, the dude has a propensity to just struggle. Where you say, there is no way he can get any worse. Like the game against the Texans when Kubiak had the heart attack. We will see if Luck can survive being a starter in this league in his contract year and next year when his division become competitive. Remember, there is no such thing as a junior slump. If he struggle in his 3rd year and his team doesn't make the playoffs as the Texans and Titans become better, there will be cause for concern. We can all laugh and compare him to Cam, but Cam is already tested. There is no more concern about Cam. All the Texans need is a QB(Bridgewater) to get back to their 13 win ways. Will the media accept a Colts team that misses the playoffs with Luck completing, say, 55% of his passes. The media is just building him up so they can eat him alive at the opportune time. And I guarantee you, Luck doesn't have the game to back it up. He struggles in his first 2 years as a pro and he will continue to struggle.

 

Cam is also bigger, faster, stronger, with much bigger upside, but Luck is better.....because.

To keep him relevant. Every time a young QB does well the media like to troll them by start comparing them to Luck. Here are a few you'll see in the near future: Luck vs Bridgewater, Luck vs Winston.

 

Luck's mechanics are more refined and Cam has the bigger cannon but there's no significant difference between them in all honesty. Plus, while Luck is more consistent (being a finished product at the collegiate level), he's got a gunslinger mentality like Newton.

There are two ways things are done in sports: fundamental or talent. non-talented people need as much mechanics/fundamental they can get. For talented people it come natural to them. The idea of a football is to throw it to another person to catch it. There is no rules as to how it needs to be done. So far, with all Luck's fundamentals he struggles mightily to complete 60% of his passes in his 2 years as a pro. While Cam on the other hand completes over 60% of his passes in his sleep.