Riley Cooper would you want him

[Evengelion]

JR had a sit down with Cam regarding tattoos and earrings before we drafted him.

 

What would the sit down with Riley Cooper be like?

Put Cooper as second in command to watch over Cam, I guess.

[Kakarot]

Hell no, fug him.  

He's not much better than Lafell, anyways.  We can get a player comparable to him late in the draft, and the new guy won't be a racist.

[stirs]

Hours ago, I tried to make the point about forgiveness.

 

We and the team have forgiven one Steve Smith on multiple occasions for beating up fellow players, and he wasn't even drunk.

 

It seems the hardest fans in the NFL have forgiven Cooper, and I am sure he had a lot of fence mending to do with his fellow Eagle teammates, but he seems to have done what was necessary to gain that forgiveness.

 

And also, if Gman sees him as a value and learns that he was contrite enough in the locker room in Philly, after checking with our captains, he might pull the trigger

[Evengelion]

Are you seriously going to rationalize the behaviors of Riley Cooper by generalizing the entire Philly fan base and Michael Vick based upon the supposed "popularity" of what you call a sport?

 

Dog fighting is illegal in all 50 states and it's territories. There is no "So, whether it's a crime is relative." It's is a bullshi* comment.

 

No I'm not. I'm saying if Cooper were to be accepted by any fan base it would be Philly fans because they're known for uttering hate slurs just like Cooper.

 

Do fighting a crime but people still do it underground. But is not a crime against humanity. Cooper's behavior infer the nonsensical genocide of human beings. Such behavior is not forgivable nor forgettable. It's just a heinous crime that no one want to be part of. Some dude caught fighting some dogs is pretty forgettable once they pay their due to society. There are a lot of people who believe Vick should never have spent any time in jail for dog fighting and that his celebrity status was used against him.

 

[CarolinaCoolin]

No I'm not. I'm saying if Cooper were to be accepted by any fan base it would be Philly fans because they're known for uttering hate slurs just like Cooper.

Do fighting a crime but people still do it underground. But is not a crime against humanity. Cooper's behavior infer the nonsensical genocide of human beings. Such behavior is not forgivable nor forgettable. It's just a heinous crime that no one want to be part of. Some dude caught fighting some dogs is pretty forgettable once they pay their due to society. There are a lot of people who believe Vick should never have spent any time in jail for dog fighting and that his celebrity status was used against him.

So Vick can kill things because it's done underground and that's ok but cooper can't say a word drunk and that's not ok.

You'd be way better off with going that both horrible and no one should ever do them. Dogs are easily the most beloved animal in this country. There was a study done that people are more likely to help a dog on the side of the road than a baby. Both Vick and cooper have done what they needed to do to make up for what each has done. We should only care about their football production from now on

[bleys]

Michael Vick isn't a white man who called a black man the n word in a drunken idiotic rage in front of his white friends.

Riley Cooper is, and he has to find a way to fit into other locker rooms in a league that the majority of which is made up of black men.

 

You just sound busy pointing out the obvious to everyone that he somehow has to fit into a locker room..   We know this.  

 

Although I'm not sure why you bring up Vick's name as a polarizing figure...  Only to then say Vick isn't a white man so on and so forth..  Either way Vick overcame such atrocity to once again lead men so it's likely Cooper will find a way to fit into the locker room.  Just my speculation, we'll have to wait and see before further discussion matters.

 

anyhow, I didn't read any of the 5 pages after the OP knowing full well this thread was currently rolling in a jovial direction (my intuition at it's finest) and couldn't have posted it at a more opportune time...

 

If this team feels he has the talent to improve the offense in some capacity then we'll get to watch up front and center.  Although I doubt he ever wears a Panther uniform.  This offense doesn't need another role player.  We can bring back LeFell in that case and most likely for a decent price.

[TheRed]

Just shows how big of a joke you really are but continuously fail to realize it.

I've tried to be respectful you to in this thread, but you just make it personal over, and over.

We don't agree, so what? Let it go.

[Evengelion]

you would have to realize what point I was trying to make before you could agree to disagree..

 

 

All I mentioned was that fans opinions really don't mean poo to anyone and that the only opinions that matter would be the locker room.  I only brought up Vick by stating that if fans didn't quit watching him then the Panthers wouldn't lose the fanbase if they for some reason brought in Cooper.  

 

However, you assisted me in making a further point..  If the ever polarizing Vick can become the leader of a locker room after killing dogs and serving 2 years in prison then it's certainly plausible to assume the Panthers locker room just might be cool with Cooper joining the team.  

 

From there we could agree to disagree on whether the locker room would allow such a thing and if Cooper is worthy of even landing a roster spot in the 1st place..  But I don't care either way so there's no need to discuss it.  

Have you ever known someone either as a coworker or else who is a known racist? You can't make that statement unless you understand that dynamic. People tend to hate those who hates them and being forced to work with them or be around them doesn't make it any easier. What do you think those black guys in the locker room who are "cool with cooper" talk about when Cooper is not in the room? People don't forgive and forget that easily. Nature don't allow them to do so, else they'd be extinct by now.

[bleys]

Have you ever known someone either as a coworker or else who is a known racist? You can't make that statement unless you understand that dynamic. People tend to hate those who hates them and being forced to work with them or be around them doesn't make it any easier. What do you think those black guys in the locker room who are "cool with cooper" talk about when Cooper is not in the room? People don't forgive and forget that easily. Nature don't allow them to do so, else they'd be extinct by now.

 

let me stop you for a second.  when I say cool, I meant, they want to win games and doesn't mean they have to be friends with him or even respect him.

 

certainly you can understand that dynamic as well..  It happens in the NFL.

[CarolinaCoolin]

I've tried to be respectful you to in this thread, but you just make it personal over, and over.

We don't agree, so what? Let it go.

Quite the opposite actually. You only make things personal and you have not been respectful in the slightest. You are so obviously it's not even fun.

[TheRed]

why not just quote me..

I'm the only one that brought up Vick and the only reason had to do with pointing out how fans opinions mean nothing. While you're busy pointing out the obvious to everyone that he somehow has to fit into a locker room.. We know this.

Although I'm not sure why you bring up Vick's name as a polarizing figure... Only to then say Vick isn't a white man so on and so forth.. Either way Vick overcame such atrocity to once again lead men so it's likely Cooper will find a way to fit into the locker room. Just my speculation, we'll have to wait and see before further discussion matters.

anyhow, I didn't read any of the 5 pages after the OP knowing full well this thread was currently rolling in a jovial direction (my intuition at it's finest) and couldn't have posted it at a more opportune time...

If this team feels he has the talent to improve the offense in some capacity then we'll get to watch up front and center. Although I doubt he ever wears a Panther uniform. This offense doesn't need another role player. We can bring back LeFell in that case and most likely for a decent price.

Vick is a whole different story, I'm not even going to bother any further on that.

If Gettleman, and the staff talk to Cooper, and decide he is a good fit to bring in, I will support the decision. But I will not get behind those here downplaying his actions to the point that the incident somehow won't even come up in the process like nothing ever happened.

[TheRed]

Quite the opposite actually. You only make things personal and you have not been respectful in the slightest. You are so obviously it's not even fun.

You can really hold a grudge. Good day sir.

[Jangler]

this is a funky thread

[bleys]

Vick is a whole different story, I'm not even going to bother any further on that.

If Gettleman, and the staff talk to him, and decide he is a good fit to bring in, I will support the decision. But I will not get behind those here downplaying his actions to the point that the incident somehow won't even come up in the process like nothing ever happened.

 

here's the point you're missing..  the only point being made..  it doesn't matter what you think or support..  Which is entirely the only reason Vick was brought up.  As proof of that.

 

 

And I don't know what people said in the thread.  I didn't read it.  Partly because I assumed there would be one side claiming Vick was a locker room problem and another claiming others are saying every football player forgave and forgot..

 

Somehow I doubt either are entirely true..   But somehow you still fell on both sides of that.