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Forgotten Man: Brandon Williams

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If the guy don't ever play how will we ever know? Julius Thomas did nothing for two seasons but was persisted with by the broncos and they reaped the rewards last season, get the guy out on the field, same as barner.

 

Gettlemen has said this.  He keeps saying, "The answer could be on our roster."  I have to think that Gettlemen and RR will give Williams a good long look this preseason.  He flashed last August, so maybe....

 

From comments that I am reading, I get the feeling that they are going to look at WRs like McNutt and King and TE Williams to have some role in the offense. 

 

Not saying that these players will be stars or anything, but we need to see them play before we can really tell.

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Gettlemen has said this. He keeps saying, "The answer could be on our roster." I have to think that Gettlemen and RR will give Williams a good long look this preseason. He flashed last August, so maybe....

From comments that I am reading, I get the feeling that they are going to look at WRs like McNutt and King and TE Williams to have some role in the offense.

Not saying that these players will be stars or anything, but we need to see them play before we can really tell.

The only thing about going 12-4 and being competative was we couldn't throw these guys in and see what they could do game time, pre season is ok but doesn't mean a lot, I like to win don't get me wrong but a losing season also give you a chance to see some other guys rather than expect them to make clutch catches in the division game.
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If he can run and catch Olsen can block with the line, lafell can block but can't catch, maybe we will draft someone who can put it all together rather than these half skilled players who can only do one thing but not another, do you think Shula can manage to draw up some plays with two TE sets?

 

To be honest, in my opinion Shula's reluctance to throw in some two TE sets was perhaps the most disappointing aspect of his play calling last season. Hell, it was unforgivable at worst, and just a fuging head-scratcher at best.  I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, as many people have said that he didn't call the plays because we didn't have capable personnel to execute the plays on the field.  Well, I ain't gonna except that excuse this coming season. Shula has to show more creativity in his play calling, and more faith and trust in his players. For me, that's the bottom line.

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To be honest, in my opinion Shula's reluctance to throw in some two TE sets was perhaps the most disappointing aspect of his play calling last season. Hell, it was unforgivable at worst, and just a fuging head-scratcher at best. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, as many people have said that he didn't call the plays because we didn't have capable personnel to execute the plays on the field. Well, I ain't gonna except that excuse this coming season. Shula has to show more creativity in his play calling, and more faith and trust in his players. For me, that's the bottom line.

Well this year he's going to have likely 4-5 new receivers and maybe 3-4 new guys on the line so the don't trust the personnel excuse can't be used, I'm looking for a fresh offense, new talent new schemes, I mean i don't know how much game time they will get but you got mcnutt and king who can both go up for the ball there big 6ft 2 plus guys, and maybe we draft others, add in Williams at TE and this kid Dc Jefferson another TE who they also claimed off waivers from Arizona, shula has no excuses for the amount of options atleast at his disposal.

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Well this year he's going to have likely 4-5 new receivers and maybe 3-4 new guys on the line so the don't trust the personnel excuse can't be used, I'm looking for a fresh offense, new talent new schemes, I mean i don't know how much game time they will get but you got mcnutt and king who can both go up for the ball there big 6ft 2 plus guys, and maybe we draft others, add in Williams at TE and this kid Dc Jefferson another TE who they also claimed off waivers from Arizona, shula has no excuses for the amount of options atleast at his disposal.

 

King is only 6 feet, but he can still be an effective WR.  He had some game at Georgia. I'm thinking that he can at least be a very adept WR3.  It's time for McNutt to get on the field and prove that he can be starting material. I forgot about Jefferson. Out of these guys, along with B-Will, we have to get one out of the bunch who can be an x-factor. At least that's what I'm hoping. 

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Some players are rotational and they can gradually take a bigger role---Hardy probably would have sucked if he had to start as a rookie, for example.  As for Shula, he has never had weapons at his disposal.  He had Cam, Olsen, and a 34-year old, 5'9" WR.

 

I expect that to change in 2014.  Dawg, I wanted to see more 2 TE sets as well.  Maybe Hartline wasnt a threat and Williams wasn't ready. I dunno.

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King is only 6 feet, but he can still be an effective WR. He had some game at Georgia. I'm thinking that he can at least be a very adept WR3. It's time for McNutt to get on the field and prove that he can be starting material. I forgot about Jefferson. Out of these guys, along with B-Will, we have to get one out of the bunch who can be an x-factor. At least that's what I'm hoping.

These guys just look different to what we have had, height isn't everything but it offers a whole new dimension, especially if they go up for the ball, I was wrong about kings height but tape I've seen of him he goes up and wins balls from dbs, mcnutt too, we haven't had that in a long time, if you have three TEs you can do so much because of the rotation, one thing that did worry me last year was the rotation on offfense, I hardly saw much of hixon or mcnutt last year and the offense was always the same guys and what we did became predictable, if you have five receivers and three TEs it shoudnt be surely?.

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Bottom line for me is that just like these young players are expected to raise their game, Shula should be expected to raise his game as well. That's the only way we can really find out what we've got, and rather the players are developing. Otherwise some will be blaming the players and some of us will be scratching our heads all over again (and some will be cursing Shula).

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I am hoping he steps up--he was very raw in camp.  Maybe he will be ready to contribute.  Way too soon to write him off as an Armanti.  Edwards took 4 years to prove he was not an NFL player.  

 

Williams

Kugbila

McNutt

King

Barner

 

A lot of people have seen enough to write these players off.  I am not one of them, because some players are developmental.  Not all are immediate starters.  If these 4 develop--if 2 do--if one does---we are in better shape next year.

 

I'm looking forward to Williams and Kugbilla playing this year and they probably can grab a starting role. The only way to find out how good they are is to let them play football. 

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it took edwards 4 years to prove he wasnt nfl material???? if not for the trade and investment, he would have been a 6th round cut during his rookie season.

 

wiliams just didnt catch on like others, some do some dont. it was worth enough for don to sorta red shirt him, so we'll see.

 

 

i was a big believer in barnidge, called him a cover two killer. we all pull "zods", if you make enough statements. injuries didnt help tho...... 

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it took edwards 4 years to prove he wasnt nfl material???? if not for the trade and investment, he would have been a 6th round cut during his rookie season.

 

wiliams just didnt catch on like others, some do some dont. it was worth enough for don to sorta red shirt him, so we'll see.

 

 

i was a big believer in barnidge, called him a cover two killer. we all pull "zods", if you make enough statements. injuries didnt help tho...... 

 

It took Gettleman 1 year to determine Joe Adams wasn't NFL material.

 

This ain't our Daddy's GM.

 

Williams makes it or is cut this year.  My hope is he makes it.  Big men win in this league, just ask Gettle.

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I expect Williams to be ready to contribute next year. We were winning so that limited any chance of him getting PT. Probably didn't know the playbook that well which he should by next year. Working with Olsen should also help him make huge strides in every firm except blocking. Haha

Same for McNutt & King just being able to learn the playbook for a year & practice the little things should pay off big time. My concern is the line & that's it everything else will work out.

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