When we sign

[BigCat]

It would take an idiot team to give up 2 1st for a DE.

QB maybe, DE no.

True.

[Gin and Juice]

I love how Peppers is done but Smitty still has 2 more solid years? What?

[Gin and Juice]

Forget the Pep thing.....Justin Tuck at 2yr/13mil contract! Man had better production than CJ!

Trade Hardy to Atlanta for their 2014 1st and 3rd! That would just about guarantee Mathews or Robinson. Once they see there is no chance Clowney drops to them then that deal should be easy! That would give us 5 picks in top 100 of a deep draft! Clears up 6-7mill in cap space this year! I see that kind of move making us a better team than last year

[TheNewStandard]

Forget the Pep thing.....Justin Tuck at 2yr/13mil contract! Man had better production than CJ!

Trade Hardy to Atlanta for their 2014 1st and 3rd! That would just about guarantee Mathews or Robinson. Once they see there is no chance Clowney drops to them then that deal should be easy! That would give us 5 picks in top 100 of a deep draft! Clears up 6-7mill in cap space this year! I see that kind of move making us a better team than last year

Guess shades of Abraham wrecking our O-line wasn't enough for you...now you want to give them Hardy.

WTF is wrong with people. Done smoked yourselves retarded.

[Gin and Juice]

Guess shades of Abraham wrecking our O-line wasn't enough for you...now you want to give them Hardy.

WTF is wrong with people. Done smoked yourselves retarded.

Wow......you are giving Hardy waaaaaayyyyy too much credit! Good, yes! Abraham level, not yet! I may be wrong, but the times he did abuse us was when Gross was out and we had statue Jake as QB

[TheNewStandard]

Wow......you are giving Hardy waaaaaayyyyy too much credit! Good, yes! Abraham level, not yet! I may be wrong, but the times he did abuse us was when Gross was out and we had statue Jake as QB

Hardy is every bit the player JA was, if not already better...Kraken is more versatile and a better tackler. Come on, man.

[Gin and Juice]

Hardy is every bit the player JA was, if not already better...Kraken is more versatile and a better tackler. Come on, man.

No! Just no! Most intelligent people are weary of him just wanting the big payday! His PDs are low as is his FF are low! His run defense just is starting too improve! His sacks came in spurts and most against average to below average LTs! Lets not put him in the Hall of Fame yet! Abraham didn't need a pro bowler opposite of him with 2 potential pro bowlers in the middle just to get 15 sacks

[TheNewStandard]

Hardy is every bit the player JA was, if not already better...Kraken is more versatile and a better tackler. Come on, man.

JA had 8 of his 11.5 sacks in 3 games, 6 of them against Houston and St Louis.

Think about what our defense would look like without Hardy, Mitchell and Munnerlyn...and then think about what we'd look like if another of our starters were to miss games due to injury...especially if it was CJ, Star or Kuechly. We would get torched and you would be one pissed off Panther fan, calling for gettlemans job. Just stop with all the trade Kraken talk, it hurts my freakin' head.

[TheNewStandard]

No! Just no! Most intelligent people are weary of him just wanting the big payday! His PDs are low as is his FF are low! His run defense just is starting too improve! His sacks came in spurts and most against average to below average LTs! Lets not put him in the Hall of Fame yet! Abraham didn't need a pro bowler opposite of him with 2 potential pro bowlers in the middle just to get 15 sacks

Abraham hasn't had 15 sacks since '09 and hasnt broke 40 tackles since he was with the jets.

That just shows how dominant our defense is and how dominant they have to be for us to win the division.

[hepcat]

Hardy is an every down player who is probably better at stopping the run than he is at rushing the passer - and he had 15 sacks.  Who wants to trade who for who now?

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

this is the same guy who talked about trading charles johnson because he was "old" and tanking to get clowney before the regular season

 

pay no mind

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

No! Just no! Most intelligent people are weary of him just wanting the big payday! His PDs are low as is his FF are low! His run defense just is starting too improve! His sacks came in spurts and most against average to below average LTs! Lets not put him in the Hall of Fame yet! Abraham didn't need a pro bowler opposite of him with 2 potential pro bowlers in the middle just to get 15 sacks

 

he was on the same line as patrick kerney and jonathan babineaux for several seasons in atlanta

 

neither of those are slouches

[Jangler]

When did this become a real thread? Did Geppetto start posting again?

[Camsfanclub]

Forget the Pep thing.....Justin Tuck at 2yr/13mil contract! Man had better production than CJ!

Trade Hardy to Atlanta for their 2014 1st and 3rd! That would just about guarantee Mathews or Robinson. Once they see there is no chance Clowney drops to them then that deal should be easy! That would give us 5 picks in top 100 of a deep draft! Clears up 6-7mill in cap space this year! I see that kind of move making us a better team than last year

Why do you want to make our division that much harder