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Wild Idea.. Trade for Shemar Stewart
PNW_PantherMan replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
This 1000%. Hey who wants to sign with the guy that couldn't even get his client the guaranteed contract of a 3rd round pick? Lmao -
I don't think it's any weird or unique clause, it's the offset language, same thing so many contract disputes are over. It just means that including it, if a player is cut and then signed by another team, the original team would be able to subtract how much they're getting paid by the new team from what they still owe him on their guaranteed money. For example, it's why Russell Wilson signed for the minimum last year with the Steelers as that was included in his Denver contract. So if he signed with the Steelers for $1 million, he'd get $1 million less from the Broncos, if it was $2 million, he'd get $2 million less, basically he couldn't make any more money than he was already going to make, so you sign for the minimum to not take unnecessary cap room from your new team while giving extra cap room to your old one. The problem with trying to include it in rookie deals is that a team trying to include it, it says they think they don't really believe the player will make it 4 years with the team before they cut them. And this usually comes up with one or two rookies in most seasons, the difference is it's usually handled much more quietly and not as public and ugly as this one. The other difference is that it's happening with the Bengals, which I believe I saw are one of the few (or only?) team that doesn't have protections for rookies in rookie and mini camps to be able to participate even if they haven't signed their contract yet. The other teams have injury protections that allow them to still play, but the Bengals do not, which is also why this one is so public and ugly, as most the time this happens, the rookie is still participating in the rookie and subsequent mini camps, giving them more time to get the contract done before training camp when they'd then hold out.
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adamantium? adam? adam thielen super bowl game winning catch ?
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You're really gonna pass up the opportunity to make a joke about skidmarks in underwear here? Alright fine.
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From what I know…… we were supposed to get new uniforms in 2022 or 2023. The team hated them outside of the blue which is what we ended up going to. They had started the process with the league in 2021 and abandoned it. Thats why they started to experiment with the different jersey/pant combinations. Tepper is a huge fan of the silver too. It’s why they started to use it more with Charlotte FC
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Wild Idea.. Trade for Shemar Stewart
PNW_PantherMan replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Seems like a lot of trouble for a 3rd round salary lol. They make around 1mm per year. - Yesterday
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Tepper’s Panthers have already left their mark. It’s never ending losing seasons. quit trying to replace keep pounding. When and if it is replaced….it should be a naturally created event/moment that does it all on its own.
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New slogan means everyone has to buy new merch....... It's all so tiresome.....
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I just got done with giving tepper major props for spending big millions to win and now this?!?!?!
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I say the blame goes to the GM, in this case its Mike Browns daughter since shes the chief contract person. The bungals don't even have a person listed as GM, cause that would cost more money to pay them. I've heard they also pay scouts the least among teams too... This is just classic bungals having a repeat like in the "old" holdout days. They were the worst team about holdouts too........again blame the GM daughter. The deal is I believe she is just doing what Mike Brown wants, to save every penny possible.... Mike use to send her to owners meetings too, i bet she flew coach on southwest....
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“Leave Our Mark” This reminds of me that time they tried to make the chest pump from Wolf of Wall Street a thing.
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Wild Idea.. Trade for Shemar Stewart
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Because they think he's gonna bust and they want to be able to wiggle out of the deal. Everyone knew he was boom or bust. I think something happened since the draft that makes them think he's a bust. -
Putting your faith into a "mid", that's one bold strategy my fren....
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Wild Idea.. Trade for Shemar Stewart
Davidson Deac II replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
It sounds like they are having second thoughts about drafting him and tried to insert some weird unique clause into his contract. They screwed up and now they have to pay the piper. -
So…..it’s just launching the “leave our mark” slogan? Tepper really hates Keep Pounding Need another hand so I can give this 3 thumbs down
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Wild Idea.. Trade for Shemar Stewart
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah, when you draft a guy you have to understand and realize you're going to be giving him a contract commensurate with that draft position. It is what it is. If you don't want to do that for anyone on the board, trade down. Hell, pull a Vikings and sit on your ass and let the time run out and the next team up pick. LOL! But don't draft the guy and then think you're going to get away with some contract shenanigans. Hell, his agent can't allow it looking out for his own interests. If Stewart was willing to sign a deal wildly out of step with the norm on a bad way his agent would probably tell him he's got a walk. If I want to sign future 1st round draft prospects I can't be a part of this. -
Yea, I don't know why they are insisting this new clause to be be included. (well its money, its always money). Just the issue, or one of the big issues, is no other team is doing it. They are trying to start a trend..... guess what the team picked right after and before stewart didn't not have this clause in the contract and they have already signed. They totally look like the bad guy in all this and like I posted before, their rep is awful among agents. Mike Brown uses his daughter negotiate contracts cause she took law courses. Look it up, many say if she is doing that, she is the GM... I bet you can not guess who the GM is....... save you some time, there isn't one.... so maybe it is the daughter....
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Eh, I can see where you're coming from, but at the same time, unless the new jerseys were just god awful ugly, how many people would just cancel their order at that point? Those people, like myself, bought it because they wanted T-Mac's jersey, not because they loved the current uniforms and just wanted one. But I kinda hope they do give us new uniforms next offseason, just like with Cam, so this version of T-Mac's jersey will always be his "rookie jersey" which would be pretty neat. It was pretty well known at the time that we were getting new jersey's that next season so I waited to get my Cam until then and got an Authentic one, which is great, but I do still kinda regret not having a Cam rookie jersey in my collection.
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Wild Idea.. Trade for Shemar Stewart
PNW_PantherMan replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Poverty franchise behavior. If you don't like him as a 3rd rounder then why'd you draft him there? As others have said, they likely found out some new information and have buyer's remorse. Our FO didn't give DJ Johnson a hard time for being a bad pick. -
Best I heard its a clause the bungals want to add. It prevents them form paying the full guaranteed amount if triggered. No one knows the details of the clause, but guesses are it relates to off-field stuff. Stewart is in the right here. Before they signed burrow, chase, and Higgins they were the cheapest team in the league bar none. Unlike tepper or jarrah Jones or any other NFL ownership, all Mike brown owns is the beagals. Every other owner has many other money making businesses, not bungals. I still remember when Brenston Bunker was starting on WFNZ and he told the story about the beagals telling him to pick a used cup form a huge pile, LOLS! They been on hard knocks and I remember Marvin lewis telling the players not to take home Gatorade bottles........* but in that case, I believe some players were taking a back pack and filling it up with drinks. Still you make millions(around 200million) in net profit and Im sure coke gave the team those bottles, still... Its a 32 team billion business, someone has to the cheapest.....Panthers were around the next cheapest team before tepper bought them and he has POURED millions upon millions into the team. He bought a bubble that Richardson never would, so the team had to gather in a old building during the rain. He spent millions on coofus machines that he just gave away like the bubble. Tepper made that AC trailer a thing. I've trashed him about his concerts and taking away end zone seats from fans. But the guy will spend money any way in efforts to better the team, dang I just remembered the deal he gave Rhule- more than Andy Reid at the time. I know results have not came, but Id 100% take Tepper over Mike brown as a owner.
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There's no way they're shipping you some uniform you haven't seen lol. I feel like they'd just refund you and ask if you wanted the new one when it launched. Probably just making the blues the primary, or a new helmet for a new alternate/variation.
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Man even after 5-12 seasons they are able to produce hype videos.
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Well they haven't been shipped out yet despite this past Friday being when they were supposed to and then an email went out saying they were pushed back a few more weeks. So you could make an argument that they delayed them as they'll be the new uniform and the team hasn't been ready to debut them yet, but I still don't see that at all being the case as it would just be weird to do it all after the draft and after all the rookie card pictures have been taken in the existing ones too.
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BREAKING: Panthers interested in Justin Simmons
Basbear replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
He ran out of excuses this past year with the sorriest panther defense in its 30 year history. I get DB was a huge loss, scheme up and figure it out. There was poor game plans and poor calls during the whole season. Like you said they started bad and NEVER showed improvement. Personally he needs to show me something by week 8 or fire his arse that week. Plenty of other DCs were making chicken salad with chicken shiit. The big issue for me, is he is the highest paid DC in the league. If you are that guy you need to produce better than 32nd in many defense categorizes. He can not have a repeat.
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