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Not sure why in quotes, but yeah really odd take from that guy. Panthers nominated for award and fans are mad. That is why people say huddlers aren't actually fans because y'all don't act like fans. If you love the team, be happy for the team when good things happen. If you think being pissed at players getting awards makes you a good fan, well I really have nothing to say to that. Can't argue with stupid. I think I'm gonna go make a thread about how it's time to pay Ickey and maybe someone will have a stroke over it. That could be fun.

I like the potential of Etienne a lot. He has an impressive burst and he's young.

Don't agree at all. We're winning more games than before, including against good teams with good defenses. And no, it isn't "in spite of him". That argument is silly. Yes, he's better. What he's not...is consistent, and I have a tough time fixing my hopes on a "franchise quarterback" who isn't consistent. But if we're all being completely honest... ...this wouldn't be the first time we've done that.

Bryce Young has already played in nearly half the number of games Delhomme played in over his entire career with the Panthers. And in that timespan he has began the season 3 years in a row playing quite poorly. Even the "improvement" 42 games in is still sandwiched in between very mediocre to poor QB play. And that has all been within the last 2 months. We are seeing more instances of "improvement" in the sample size because we are giving him more opportunities than we've given just about any other QB (along with the highest paid OL in the league) when considering the number of games he's played and the percentage of underwhelming play within that. At the end of this season he will surpass Kerry Collins for number of games played and if he starts the bulk of next season he will match or surpass Steve Beuerlein. The Panthers are unequivocally giving Bryce the benefit of the doubt. And it could be argued he is getting a pass quite a few guys have never gotten.

Not so sure we were ready to pounce on Graham due to the position he played versus just seeing him as the far and away BPA if he was there. Also not sure in hindsight that all that Graham talk wasn't a smokescreen to begin with.

Saints game, although some of the early season contests were ugly too.

I mentioned Jake as an example of three years not necessarily telling the full story. Once they hit the field for their first NFL game, draft status loses all meaning outside of "biggest bust / best value" conversations between analysts and fans. Coaches and GMs should never take that into account. Performance is all that matters. As far as "complete games", people love guys who lead fourth quarter comebacks. What nobody ever seems to mention in that context is the reason you need a "fourth quarter comeback' is because you're losing after three and a half. That's why I'm not as big a fan of that metric. But I do have to concede that it does point to a "clutch" factor and, more importantly, to winning games. If Bryce continues to so that or progresses to doing it consistently, I'm not gonna fret about mediocre to lousy stats. And lemme tell you, as a guy who pines after consistency, the Panthers quarterback history (even the good parts) does not paint a pretty picture (this team turns "ugly wins" into an art form)

what game do people feel is Bryce's actual worst on the season. Not fantasy stat wise. Just actual QB performance?

Man to be dumb and have a cannon for an arm. I got half of it covered at least.

I really dont see this pick Can never have enough big men but i would think Edge, best oline or best linebacker Id be fine if the whole draft was best available linemen for depth Oline getting beat up, older, and free agents Also panthers might finish with a win or two more of course 15. Carolina Panthers: Peter Woods, DT, Clemson The Panthers were ready to pounce on Mason Graham had he slid in last year’s draft, and they could look at defensive tackle again in this year’s first round. Woods needs to turn the “almost” moments into more impact plays, but he is a nimble big man with a lot of promise to develop into a game-wrecker.

I'm probably closer to a Trevor hater than anyone and I think I'd take this deal. Jesus.

this has always been my go to. Take someone's very best game out and very worst. Both ends of the spectrum distort the most. Judge them after that, because that is who they are. And if you do that with Bryce? Well, that's not a starting caliber QB. Not any of the 3 seasons.

The team plays around Bryce right now and that works to a degree. Is it championship worthy? Debatable at best. It's gonna be tougher to do that if he's entrenched as a starter with a 2nd contract. Take the human element out of it, and it makes a lot of sense to reset the clock on the QB contract with a fresh face. But we are dealing with the human element almost exclusively with the Panthers.

If he can string together 3 great games to close out the season and clinch the playoffs, not just good games, then and only then would I consider the option.

I mean if the goal is to compete for national championships perennially there's really no debate where the better chance of that is between Ole Miss and LSU. LSU has three in the last 25 years while Ole Miss only had five winning seasons (and only one 10+ win season) since 2000 prior to Kiffin's arrival.

Josh Allen had legitimate improvement. Bryce Young is more the same than he is improved. The legitimate improvement that people can't deny is the OL play each season, the rush attack and the D vs last year. The throws and coverage Bryce struggles with are pretty much the same. I think he is seeing a comp % bump that is product of Canales largely acknowledging Bryce can't do a lot (the whole argument made by many that he calls games how he has to because of Bryce). Bad throw % remains super high, he still fumbles a lot, he basically needs man coverage do to anything, isn't threatening downfield, the book is sort of out on how to stop him and make him irrelevant. I just mean because Atlanta refuses to do it to him and a couple 4th and shorts don't allow the setup....that doesn't change the overall book. And he will never really be able to improve on his physical tool limitations.

I genuinely hope we are not having extension talks yet.

Game recognize game

Yeah I’ve watched Stafford for close to 20 years now and sometimes he has games where he just tries to pull poo out of his ass and that’s what Sunday was. Especially that corner endzone pass in the first half. He was just trying to show off his arm. A rams fan on another forum I post on said they hadn’t been in a close game in a while and it showed. at the end of the days Stafford is just a big dumb hick from Texas with the biggest arm in the state. Shine on you dumb diamond go dawgs

Jake was not the 1st overall pick either. There's a level of expected readiness that comes from being drafted at that position. Pre draft, Bryce was the most NFL ready QB in a decade according to experts, top QB across multiple draft boards. That was never Jake. So comparing him to Jake's career path is disingenuous. I don't see legitimate significant improvement. I see an outlier game in Atl and good plays dropped here and there, but overall, the bulk product hasn't been anything that has made me think we need to extend him, or option him. Matt Flynn had a 400 yard outlier game, got a huge contract, and disappeared into obscurity. Take away Bryce's best and worst game each season as the outliers and analyze the rest. It all looks the same. Never a complete QB driven game start to finish. A lot of poor placement. Some good throws. Same bad mechanics and bad footwork. Not enough to say give me 2 more years of this

For better or worse the decision makers including Dan Morgan are and will remain heavily invested in salvaging the trade and selection. To that end it is best to expect them to make bad decisions.

Gotcha Like I said above, if it's just a statistical contest, why are they asking people to vote? (so they think we're bad at math)

Can’t believe early extension talks are even a possibility right now. Noting in his play has shown contract extension, fifth year, I kind of see that, but an extension is insane at this point.

Saban was also one of the guys that advised him to leave.

I've seen it suggested that there should be a "Most Valuable Quarterback" award and a separate "Most Valuable Player" trophy. I don't really think that's ever going to happen, but there's definitely an argument to be made that it should.