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When a defense gives up a 12 minute drive that is really hurting the offense. The defense could not get off the field. The offense had 7 possessions. Seven. They did not have many opportunities. We also might as well have spiked the ball every 1st down with the predictable run game.

trying to post in a medical office, never a good idea

Thats more on Canales plenty of teams use the TE or RB for it

Also, I remember the RG3 saying you should just QB sneak for a quarter of a yard. Bryce doesnt have the strength for that. He is way to small to lunge forward.

If your #1 overall pick can't be counted on to will your team to a win vs an opponent who is 2-10 vs the rest of the NFL..... yeah

Hmmmm convention to mention the first four drives when we had a total of 8.... FYI here are the last 4.....

Up a TD in 4Q with field position. Half a yard for a first down. 11 minutes on the clock. The probability of making a 52 yard FG is 71%, the probability of having a FG blocked is 2%, and the probability of a FG block being returned for a TD is 15%. The probability of a defense stuffing a run is 44%, the probability of a fumble is 1%, and the probability of a fumble being returned for a TD is 0.5%. With the lead, is a 15% success rate increase worth the 100% increase in turnover chance with a 2900% scoring opportunity increase for the defense? The opposing team only has 2 more drives with a possible 3rd drive in 4Q. The probability of an offense scoring back to back on their final 2 drives with long fields after only scoring 10 points in the first 50 minutes of the game is 10%. So, kicking the FG and missing it would still give the opposing team the same probability of scoring on their next 2 drives while giving them an increased chance of scoring on a blocked FG. Win probability would increase by 5-10% with a 1st down at that point and 10-15% with a FG. So, is an increase of 5% win probability worth the risk of messing up the FG? Keep in mind, the play call had an open gap that the RBs vision failed to see leading to the failed 4th down run. A failed FG would have been worse and it wasn't a chip shot. Canales made the right call by trusting Bryce, Chuba, the OL, and Evero at that moment. All 4 of them messed up though. This is also assuming the Panthers would not have any success of scoring a FG on their final 2 drives or having the defense keep the offense to FGs for the remainder of the last 11 minutes of the game, which we all were not factoring in. I don't believe taking the chance of the FG going wrong versus the 4th and 1 going wrong is worth lowering the Saints probability of winning by 5% as you are in control of the game at 80%+ win probability. The HC should challenge their team to play like a champion at that point and execute to win at least half of their matchups for the next 11 minutes. Canales made the right choice and trusted the team.

well if he (bryce) was 6'5" 245 lbs than yea we could but he isnt which is why I wasnt a advocate for him in the first place. But as for yesterdays game he played well enough for us to win without the defense getting penalties all the time. And all the teams have scrambling QBs who are big.

We have a bottom 3rd QB, leading a bottom 3rd offense. yay! PFF graded him 2nd best Sunday on Carolina’s offense.

Only here and there. There is no logical discussion to be had about anything because everything just becomes about Bryce and how it’s all his fault. He played pretty well yesterday. I’d give him a B. No turnovers, great touchdown throw in a bad spot. Key conversions with his legs, did a great job avoiding sacks with crumbling pockets. But we all just wanna make it about Bryce still. It’s so tiring. There are real discussions to be had about our head coach, defensive coordinator, offensive line. But no. Must poo on Bryce.

We literally scored on 3 of our 4 first possessions and they had one possession of 11 mins. Defense let us down on this one with penalties.

Completly agree

Here’s what I dont understand. We basically played the same game against New Orleans that lost us the first matchup. Why not let Bryce turn it loose. What an absolute perfect opportunity for the franchise to fully evaluate him in these final four games. if he absolutely falls on his face, you have your definitive answer and will have no issue selling it to your fanbase that you’re moving on. You will have constructed a good core of offensive players that you should be able to plug a vet into and see similar if not better results. If he balls out, you’ll have all the evidence you need to speak about growth and giving the fifth year option won’t be as tough a pill to swallow. You’ll also be a playoff team in year two and be flirting with double digit wins. if it’s uneven, which it likely would be, you can talk about growth and being ahead of schedule with the roster and go into next year with some time on your hands before needing to make a decision on the fifth year. the absolute last thing you needed to do was put up another game where there’s more questions than answers about your QBs ability and the trust you have in him. Canales and his staff were horrendous yesterday.

Good QBs make plays and defenses can only hold teams so long. By no means do we have an elite defense but we could and should have won that game with better offense, even by a smidge

You can be high octane with a run based offense see 2015 panthers, last years eagles, any of the last five years of Baltimore teams.

I mean the draft has been O- TMJ, mingo, XL, tmac all either 1st or 2nd rounders rb- brooks in the 2nd, early 4th on trevor TE- first 4th rounder sanders, Evans mid 5th I mean after that "all-D rhule" draft its been O in the early and often cat. #1 cap/money OL in the NFL without icky signing his record breaking LT deal. BY only needs 10 all-pros around him, then WATCH-OUT NFL!!!!

everyone told you he played a typical bryce "meh" game.

Thats not happening.

Either sweep them Or beat Seattle and have them lose to miami. Not likely

If your expecting us to be like the Rams or Lions then your sadly mistaken. We will never be a high octane offense like that. We have always been a run first team.

They would be 2-10 vs everyone else

What the fug. Everyone told me this loss was on Bryce and he didn’t play well. Surely he’d be near bottom 5 if that were the case, not top 2.

Are we discussing investment or the game. Im pretty sure we wouldnt be discussing investment if we had won. Trust me, I didnt like the Bryce pick. I was highly against it. But as for the game. Defense flopped. Bryce game managed like he shouldve and didnt create no turnovers.

An offense that has 73% of the cap and the last five years of first rounders should be expected to score more than 17 points in a critical game vs the worst team in the NFC

Yep. We have invested in this team significantly lopsided. It should be an O heavy team at this stage even if not consistent. But it’s an archaic O because of the QB.