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  2. No, I don't. What are you talking about? He was brought here to be a #3. He lived up to that. The rest of the roster failed. And you blame the one guy producing. That's what I'm talking about.
  3. Why is he so different from any other below average WR we've trotted out over the years? You act like he's your brother in law. These are just conversations. It's not like any of us has any say. You're entitled to your opinion same as anyone else is entitled to theirs.
  4. "If you view him in a certain way" He wasn't brought here to be a #1. He was forced to be the #1 because the rest of the roster failed. That ain't his fault. I rest my case.
  5. The. Only. Receiver. Producing. It's the only argument I need. There's a lot of low hanging fruit you could blame but you're going after the one guy who is actually doing what he was brought here to do.
  6. Nothing they can really do. The rookie wage scale is based on the salary cap as negotiated in the CBA. They’d need to sign a new CBA to make changes. And like I said, the money can’t really get out of hand. It’s a set percentage based on the current year’s salary cap. If the salary cap increases the rookie scale will reflect that increase. The only real negotiation points the rookies have are guaranteed money and the off-set language in the contract. The numbers are set.
  7. I kind of dig the ‘nobody but a few’ jobs are safe approach that Dan has employed. Everyone needs to watch their back. No more feel good stories.
  8. Honestly Frank is right if you view AT in a certain way. He's not apart of the future and Panthers won 2 and 5, correct? Did it matter if AT was on the field or not? Plus in a way he does hinder young WR with taking snaps. He is getting paid very well for 34-35 year olds, not many teams, maybe no other teams would give that much. Its the classic both sides have key points. I was of the opinion to cut him and didn't care for the og contract, but they traded DJ Moore...I thought Clark was going do what AT did, nope! Just to add if 2021 hunter is back and he's on a min deal, would you rather have AT@ 9million or hunter@ 1mill?
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  10. No receiver on this team, or any player for that matter, should get reps just because they need the reps. They want the reps? Beat the dudes out in front of them. Bust ass in practice and make fewer mistakes than everyone else. if this team is serious about competing with other teams, they should be serious about competing amongst themselves. Want it? Take it. If Adam really is that bad, he should be a piece of cake to outshine, right?
  11. I'm glad you're wowed with winning the shortest midget contest. But some people have higher aspirations. Blaming him for what? Not wanting to pay him 9 million a season to be borderline mid at best is not blaming him for anything. It's a simple acknowledgement that we settled and going forward we need to cut that out and actually develop talent along the whole offense.
  12. I believe... his ceiling will be average.
  13. That’s a fair point. He definitely benefited from facing softer defenses in the latter half of the season. Still, I think it’s impressive how much progress he made. Going from a UFL type backup to a competent starter, even against easier competition, is no small feat. Does bring into context why it was historical, as his prior play was that putrid, but still a good leap nonetheless. That said, the real test will be whether he can maintain consistency and solid play over a full season. If we’re going to see any meaningful return on our trade-up investment, he’ll need to prove it wasn’t just a late-season flash. We’ll find out soon enough whether it was a fluke or the beginning of something special.
  14. It seems having amazing hands is still worth something in the NFL. PFF had his overall grade for last year as 28th overall, which I also think feels about right.
  15. Dude is a straight baller and worth it. I didn't like the contract or the raise he got either, but he's bought effort and results on a awful team for those two years and wanted to come back..... I plain miss-read his heart and will. I mean think of the team the past two years WITHOUT him, dear gods that would historic bad. Plus I do believe he has helped BY become a NFL QB, no other panther WR gave any help.
  16. All first rounder have fully guarantee deals, I believe since 2011. Just the Texans gave Higgins a full deal while he was the 34th taken player. Browns had no choice at that point to do the same for 33rd drafted LB. Honestly the NFL and players union may need to step in to fix the current mess. I foresee another reset ala 2011 rookie scale coming soon. I believe this years 6th overall pick Jeanty has the most guaranteed money BY FAR of ANY RB..... that just shows the RB market is hella bad. But Its starting to get like 2000s days, where the guy pick in the first is the highest paid. Like if a safety or center is draft in the top 10, they would be in the top 3 I believe.
  17. I hated the contract when we signed him, but by some miracle he has actually out performed it. Like I said. It was a Charlotte Hornets signing. Not one other team was paying AT what we did. It just happened to work out for us.
  18. I’m not a fan of guaranteeing money to people who have never played a snap of NFL football, however, the rookie wage scale keeps things from spiraling out of control. I assume eventually all rookie contracts will be fully guaranteed.
  19. This is some real talk type of stuff. Im guilty of bad AT comments and all he's done is drag the team towards the light. Ill expose myself more, the reports came out that he wanted a little more money and guarantees for the 2025....... I thought it was best to cut him......Like my guy you are 35 years old and that contract was more than fair when your original team didn't want want you back.
  20. 101 in YPC and 54th in touchdowns in 2023 with 1k yards. In 2024 when our passing offense supposedly showed growth he was still 43rd in YPC and 50th in touchdowns. The only thing odd and bizarre is thinking that justifies 9 million a season bud. It doesn't. We can accept it because we're Panthers fans but that's about it.
  21. What are you talking a bout?!?!?! There is no list!!!!!!!!! Well....... excuse me........ if there is a list it was a total hoax made up by a kenyan born leadership!!!!!!!!! Besides what can of moron cares about human trafficking and rape????? All made up, trust me bro....... Talk about a fumble recovered for a TD type of swing, just terrible handling after all the statements and the more talking the farther the foot gos in mouth.
  22. He's the one guy in the receiver unit actually producing and yet you single him out for the blame. That's what's odd. Don't blame the one thing that wasn't broken. It's bizarre this needs to be explained. He was signed to be a high level #3 WR. It's not his fault that our roster's overall failure forced him into a role he's no longer suited for. The guy has been everything we signed him to be.
  23. Interesting some people are against Scourton getting a fully guaranteed rookie contract which would max out at around 9 million but if you wonder aloud if dinosaurs like Thielen are worth 9 million a year you're a pariah lmao.
  24. I do not mind the side line reporter for females, not one bit. Just stay from either lead play-by-play chair or color role. Stephanie Ready is great and shocked she hung around. Michele Tafoya is the godmother of that role and if not for her I would be against that too. They are good in small bits and updates, but not the full mic time. I mean this is summer league and all, but I much prefer men commentators........ I would trade about any female for Joe buck tho..... Who knows, I havnt heard enough new ones to change my mind.
  25. Produced to what end exactly? We've had a bottom 3 offense at best each year he's been here. Man you guys crack me up. Carry on.
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