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Depends what you want. It's an expensive trade (although not a crippling one). It's whether you think he's a game wrecker or not. I know he was in College - he was sensational for 3 years (and actually hurt himself by refusing to come out of games) - and I think he will be in the NFL. Evero employs soft zone schemes with big CBs - so you don't need to spend high Draft picks on CBs. We need a LB and a S, but they're no longer a premium position in the NFL i.e. not first round picks. So I could get down with improving the DLine.

That game came down to 4 plays. Not some master strategy. 2 fumbles an interception and 1 Cotchery call.

Better scenario, which current starting QB would you not trade young and XL for. No salary hoops to jump thru either, don't come saying I wouldn't take this guy because of his contract if he is clearly the superior starter.

Didn't you know we are supposed to blindly support any player that ever dons a Carolina Panthers jersey. Mind numbing how many people still want to prop this guy up like he is a franchise QB.

Did you pick the worst Pic you could find? She's definitely not a ugly girl. Maybe you prefer Taylor swifts ugly ass.

The trade for the dude and his subsequent play ruined this franchise - why wouldn't people be bitter?!

Peyton manning??

Well, I mean it's Hubert... Anyone expecting that part to change is in for disappointment.

No, I definitely picked up on the dumbness. LOL

No game plan, no in game adjustments, putting misfit lineups in all game. This is horrible coaching plan and simple

You missed the entire point of my comparison.

You might be dumb. 26-7 with Forte became 8-20 without Forte.

The last two games the heels have only led for less than half a second smh

Stupid is rewarding no effort with playing time. If you don't wanna play hard, take a seat.

What a collective band of pussies this Tarheels staff and team is. Every single one of them. I've been saying all year Caleb is soft as hell, proved me right again tonight with his bullfighting style defense and lack of any interior presence on either side of the court. What a waste of tremendous talent. Caleb Wilson = Tall Joseph Forte.

No that would be stupid of course.

Too many? Hell, I would've played the damn walk ons tonight. I would've found somebody on that bench that wanted to play hard.

You expect a bit of a hangover after a game like that but tonight level of effort was just embarrassingly pathetic. They just flat put won on pure effort. Out-rebounded, doubled up at the FT line, damn near doubled up on points in the paint, gave up an entire season's worth of alley-oops in one game, never led once, and if they kept a loose balls state I bet they outdid us 5:1. Losing a game because the other team just flat put worked circles around you just isn't acceptable.

The 2015 team was good enough that people could know what was coming and we would still be successful. It was so much fun to watch. I don’t remember if Cam’s “oh you been watching film? Well watch this” comment is from that season but it should have been. Best thing he ever said too. That I heard. I think it was simple. We were the better team on the field all season and on paper for that Super Bowl. But we went in overconfident, got smacked in the mouth, and didn’t respond for whatever reason, like we needed to. Add some unfavorable calls, put it in the books.

They came out so flat and Hubert has played backups way too many mins. Sick and fuggin tired of Hubert Davis

Not a shock to lose in Miami after that Duke game. But I am surprised how off Caleb and Trimble looked

He could probably still be playing. Or maybe just retired. Definitely lost years off his career, went out at a super high level of play, I saw the team interview with him about the HOF today and he said he still misses it. He caught a really bad break.

People don’t seem to get that I am not defending this guy or impugning the victim or the police (outside of that photo lol), but that I am pointing out the sad state of the legal process and low ethics of attorneys these days. I am not arguing facts of the case, and am pointing that these ambulance chasers disregard facts and make up these narratives because sucker juries sometimes have such great biases that they nullify. The attorneys go for their Hail Marys and it happens nearly every damned week in the news. With a judge or a DA not charging, releasing, and juries ignoring the law because they take a side on an issue. It is a common and predictable game plan and I am saying don’t be surprised at the absurdities these attorneys try to pass off as reality. The popular strategy is turn the criminal into the victim. Facts never get in the way of these fugers arguing for bullshit when it comes to the police. Who I am not a fan of and don’t trust fwiw but all you have to do is observe and you will see them do it. As far as punishment, the league has been less lenient than judges in most of these cases. So I expect them to drop the hammer. Actually I might have been pondering how a guy with millions of his own and a big time fancy car throws it all away on LaWanda.

Plus Phillips didn't out scheme us. He simply utilized his pass rushers against our weak to mediocre tackles. They played physical. We didnt

Okay thanks cool. Reading your post it’s coming back to me, but I should refresh my familiarity before I start ranting at why would we have been chasing a guy with that on his record and facing a suspension… The stuff about how it would or would not affect his contract can go for any team… in this case the Texans. It is more a wondering at why people that break basically what would be called a morals clause are not impacted contractually.