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Does that mean window closes and they can't play in the playoffs? I'm assuming yes and think that's the right thing for Hunt but just want clarification

I think Bryce is probably a very smart QB and understands the game well. But we’ve only had a few games where it felt like he took over. For the #1 pick it looks like he needs a lot of support to get going and for that reason I’m not sure he’ll ever meet that investment. If he could be top 10 at this point it would be a W. I also can’t gauge if his problems are purely physical or confidence driven due to perceived limitations. Against Tampa in the bank it looked Bama Bryce is coming on, then last week the passing game is abysmal.

That misconception has been debunked many times by several sources. Tampa came in with an offer that Carolina didn't try to match or exceed. At that point Guentzel had 1 choice if he wanted to play hockey- Tampa.

That test sure did drop off the face of the earth immediately after that season lol.

I mean, this year we should've easily been a playoff team in my opinion. We should have easily had two or three more wins--at least one--had not Bryce crapped the bed. But let's be serious about human nature and what we know about our FO. I wouldn't bet the farm that Bryce will be anything but the defacto starter in 2026, because (inconsistent though it was) we have exceeded expectations this year, and some in the FO probably believe, rightly or wrongly, that Bryce is at the center of that. You know, piece of bread seems like a meal if all you've had is a cracker. That being said, Bryce has shown plenty of inconsistency if not a downright pattern of flaws. He's a third year QB, and some, if not most, of his metrics aren't pretty. It could be argued that he should be further along (for me it's not really arguable). So, hopefully the decision makers will acquire a couple of plan Bs. I would hate it and love it if we identified "our guy" in the draft, and that it was somehow achievable to acquire him with a couple of high draft picks or even less. But we already pulled the trigger on Bryce with arguably awful results, so that's got to make the decision makers a little skittish to repeat a mistake that should be still fresh on everyone's mind. That being said, I think that it's more likely that we acquire a player like Mac Jones, Malik Willis or Trey Lance in free agency, and also target a day two or day three developmental pick in the draft with some real upside. That pick for would be Drew Allar who should slide to day three (I'm thinking). I think that this is more realistic than them releasing Bryce from his starter's role from the get-go, or someone just flat out playing themselves definitely into the starter's role by the time the season begins. Now, again, if we can find "our guy" that changes the narrative and is expected to be the starter from day one, I'd be excited, if not downright ecstatic, but I don't think that's a realistic expectation. Getting back to the team in general, If we don't make some improvements, including QB, I wouldn't bet that we'd necessarily be a playoff team next year, because, the rest of the NFCS is likely to improve next year. I don't expect that teams in our division will be necessarily able to "backdoor" themselves into the playoffs next season. So we're going to have to hit on at least a couple of picks, get healthy along the line, and fundamentally change the way we're calling plays because lightning probably isn't striking twice. I'm hoping that we'll have a real breakthrough season by 2028, because this season and next season aren't likely to be it because removing ball-and-chains ain't easy unless you got the key, and It's still gonna take some time to find it.

Necas is not the missing piece here.

There was also a ridiculous amount of stock put into the S2 test and Bryce's results were off the chart and Stroud's private results were "leaked" and he was called an imbecile, one of the nicer thing said about him. The caveat though was that you could practice for the S2 and Bryce had been taking it for a long time. The hype machine was fueled and Tepper along with Fitts & co bought it hook line and sinker.

You thought we would just sit this one out?

He's trying to get a waiver to join up with Kiffin at LSU.

I have no idea what CJ Stroud has to do with anything but I'm glad we can agree it is wonderful that Baker stinks.

Is this a thing? I know he runs a college offense but how many have even been drafted high enough to bust? The only high pick QB I can think of from him is Dart who looks decent but it’s way too early?

I like this one. Getting an elite edge and an elite off ball lb with the first two picks would be fire. missing a new RT but love the cb and wr picks too.

Necas wasn't getting 11.5m a year here and you Hall has 17 points so combined 28

He had a great season. That doesn't mean he will be an NFL caliber qb but you can't doubt his ability to extend plays with his feet and find open receivers on the run when the plays break down. The one read, quick release college qb label is fair but you can't discount what he does when the play breaks down. He would need a lot of development as a pocket passer. You draft someone like him when you have your starter who is getting older.

That’s completely false on Jake Guenzal . He wanted to be here. Tulsky played hardball versus offering the contract that he wanted beforehand. Also, that’s a point of a message board is to discuss. So we will dwell all we want . The moves that they have made aren’t working and it needs to be fixed.

He had a great game…no need to anoint him the next Joe Montana

First off we play tomorrow not Sunday, second thats not true even if we lose if the Falcons beat the saints we are in.

Neither Necas nor Mikko wanted to be here. As straight forward as the FA and salary cap system is, there's not a lot of ways to escape from a deal you failed to vet ahead of time. Guentzel and Mikko should have both been vetted for long term deals before they were brought in. That being said, there are bigger problems facing this team today, and continuing to dwell on yesterday's mistakes don't help anyone or anything.

That isn't a shock. He has that Bobby Petrino vibe.

madden knows

What do you know about Kane kiffin

Kiffin, not Saban. His texts to college girls been getting leaked.