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Not gonna lie... my expectations start at winning season. I would love to win the division again, maybe win a playoff game, but 9 wins is all I ask.

Allar in the 4th would be a steal

allar at 186 would be a freaking steal

This is where I'm at as well. Before the playoff game it was a no brainer that we go defense in the first round; Edge, ILB, or even DT. Probably D in the 2nd round as well. Now our biggest hole, IMO, is LT. No one wants to play an entire season with BC or Yosh over there (neither are currently on the team anyway) and FA does not look promising.

Because franchise for linebackers counts all linebackers for the rate, including edges. Basically any non edge lb is hardly ever going to be franchised.

We have clearly gotten better each year. Stable is never a bad thing when you are continuously improve.

Playing around with mock draft simulator this is probably my favorite one yet All the super tantalizing potentials were off the board at 19. Proctor was there but I really question if he can hold up at OT in the NFL at his size. I think speed rushers might put him in a blender. I was definitely willing to move down to pickup more capital. There's an obvious focus on the trenches in this draft. If you can own the LOS you can win a lot of games. Hell, the Seahawks just won a SB doing just that. Iheanachor oozes potential. He has all the physical tools to end up being the beat OT in this class but he's pretty raw having not been playing football long. Well worth it with the first pick in the 2nd. Christen Miller is listed as a DT here but he'd play DE in our defense. Not a lot of people are talking about it focusing on LB instead but our DEs suck too. Lawson should be a day one starter at MLB. His NFL ceiling might be more good than great but that's fine. He's smart, he's capable, and he was the QB in that Bama defense. That's what we need. If you want to run a 3-4 defense, you need a dog at NT. We don't have one. Orange can be that. He's not gonna pile up stats on his own but that's not the point of a NT. The point of a NT is to make everyone else's job easier. Slaughter is a potential starting center. Maybe not as a rookie but he could potentially be the long-term answer. I'm never going to give up on my dream of the Panthers having a true sideline to sideline ball hawking FS. Safety wasn't high on my list but Bud Clark was too tempting to pass up. At the very least he's a guy who should earn a role on 3rd and long obvious passing down type situations. Kevin Coleman is exactly the type of slot WR type we need working the underneath and middle with T-Mac and Coker on the outside. TJ Hall is just a dog and he's experienced playing outside and at nickel. He can cover and he's not afraid to step up against the run. He should be able to earn a roster spot as he hopefully develops as an NFL player and has the tools and mental makeup to be a core STer in the meantime. Nwaiwu is another development type pick with the advantage of having experience playing both LG and RG in college. At this point in the draft you're looking at guys projected as career backups and the more versatile you are as a backup the more roster value you have. I packaged two late rounders together to move up to secure Allar who has all the physical tools you want in a QB and has largely been forgotten since he missed a lot of games down the stretch this year. If he didn't he'd likely be a mid-round pick. He might still end up being a mid-round pick. If I could get him as a developmental guy in the 6th I'm doing that all day.

Honestly thought Ickey was fairlt average. That's just based on the eye test. I haven't seen any grades or anything to base that on. Usually when the QB was pressured, it seemed like it was coming from the LT or RG.

Its actually easier than the one we played this season of you compared 2025 win pct.of opponents.

Yeah, if his agent is worth a damn we're overpaying him a little, he has more value to us than any other team in the league. I'm fine with that as long as we don't overpay a lot! FWIW... his last contract was 2 year, $8M with $5M guaranteed and he just turned 30. Now that he's our by-default starting LT, he deserves a little better than that. I'd give him $6-7M per year.

Not sure there is a ton of support for Nijman starting at LOT. I hope. I don’t know about picking top 5 off just that but it wouldn’t be anywhere close to ideal and would be an issue in most matchups.

The question goes back to where they declined to pick up the 5th year. That wasn’t really a decision made because it was cost prohibitive, was it? They haven’t been real stable organizationally, for a while. But it just seems like that would have been a formality if they were happy with him. So my question would be, why did they decline?

If the team starts out losing and it doesn’t turn that seat will get warm this year. I don’t anticipate disaster but at the same time don’t have am overly optimistic forecast. Course we are not even into the team building for 2026 yet.

Continuity is a big deal though. You can’t get anywhere constantly resetting. Not good for the players. I am hoping Bevell gives us a little juice.

The speed mountaineering was an interesting watch. Women's Hockey, USA vs Canada today at 1pm EST.

He is our radio announcer dude, goddamn

If you want to pick in the top 5 next year and possibly with a brand new head coach then by all means trot Yosh out there as your starting left tackle. He is a lesser version of Icky. Decent in the run game but absolute ass in the pass game, he is too big and slow to navigate pass rushers

Unless this team plans on overpaying for Rasheed Walker who in my mind is the only long-term starting LT option in free agency then bringing back Yosh is a must. We have no depth at the tackle spots and with Ickey's and Brady's injuries plus Moton's chronic knee troubles we need to bring in at least 3 tackles this offseason. Bring back Yosh plus another vet OT and take 1 in the draft. Let Yosh, another vet, and our highly drafted rookie battle it out for the starting LT job in camp and let the best man win. Ickey struggled early on his rookie year so having a vet option or 2 on the roster to turn to would be wise. I'd also like us to bring back Corbett at center as he'll likely come back for the vet minimum, and I wouldn't be shocked if Cade Mayes got a really expensive deal on the open market. Some team that loses out on Tyler Linderbaum is going to overpay Cade Mayes.

I'd offer him a decent salary on a 3 year deal that's front loaded, or a 1 year deal that's higher $$ wise because he's likely more important to us than anyone else this coming year. Doesn't keep us from drafting an OT either way IMO, and we cover our asses in FA and see where the draft/Ickey's rehab lands.

Yep. BUT, even if Canales does become stagnant, I'd argue he did his job...of turning this back into a decent job instead of one only a WR coach would take. Obviously the owner and front office may play more of a role in that aspect, but we're back to showing potential coaches we're not a total clown show.

Getting a pass rush with 4 is the main priority on defense, but I'll happily take Lloyd to fix ILB. A Lloyd and Chenal double dip in FA, and then devoting all high draft picks to the edges and fat men would make me happy though.

It will this year and maybe next year. Icky's injury may force the Panthers to do something that fixes the obscenely lopsided cap allocation to the OL: use a premium draft pick (rounds 1-3) on an OT this year and next year. And it has serendipitously prevented the team from adding yet another obscene contract to the OL cap allocation. I really hope Icky is able to successfully rehab and play again for the team, but it may be as a G and not an OT.

Hard to say. People keep talking about how Tepper has a trigger finger, but it isn't a Tepper thing. Look at how many HCs currently have lasted 3+ years. It ain't a whole lot. It is very difficult to make it to a 4th year with 3 straight losing records. If that were to happen again, I could see him being let go. But I don't think he's necessarily on the "hot seat", as in I don't see any way he's fired midseason, and those are the types of HCs I would consider on the hot seat.

Sign them both!

I definitely wouldn’t overpay. He’s an okay fill in, in my opinion he looked better at RT when filling in than LT but if he is willing to come back at a fair deal you absolutely have to. I wouldn’t count on him anything other than depth, he has proven throughout his career he can’t be depended on to be a full time starter. The plus is that he already knows our system.