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Buddy do you realize your shtick pisses off 95% of panther fans and is the reason there were multiple fights in the stands the other day lmao

Yup better epa than stroud, hurts, Lawrence, Herbert. CPOE better than half That’s comical?

oh my god no Carson Beck sucks ass. There's a reason he got run out of Georgia. Kid gets dumber the more bad tattoos he gets. He's also a bigger bitch than Bryce. Comedy option Diego Pavia. They'd never draft him because he absolutely would win the job out of training camp and they'd have to start Bryce anyway to save face

its his shtick and he comes across as a fool

He has been one of the worst starters in the nfl for the past 3 years, he is not better than he is given credit for. You are seeing what you want to see and making up things to justify it

(I am totally against signing Bryce to a long term contract right now) I just think he’s better than he’s given credit for on here. Folks here think he is not an NFL quarterback. He showed he can play with the big boys when it matters.

epa .02 COIE -1.8 YAC 47% yeah buddy keep planting that bryce flag, this comical

exactly my thoughts to a t

The thing is, traditional passer rating only accounts for pass accuracy, interceptions and touchdowns. It doesn't take into account, for example, that CJ Stroud had 5 fumbles. Or that Matt Stafford went through a large stretch of game where he had 12 incompletions and interception and a near 2nd dropped interception before he started moving the ball when we went semi-prevent. It also doesn't account for runs and running touchdowns. In addition, things like time-to-throw are difficult to measure. A QB running for his life is gonna higher TTT stat because he's maybe rolling out the pocket, or escaping a pressure. If you watched Herbert on Sunday, a lot of people would say his line was a turnstile, but he had the highest time to throw. QBR does take a lot of that into account, so the Total QBR vs the Passer Rating is never gonna match up exactly. This forum is largely anti-Bryce though, so if his passer rating for 101.5 because he threw 3 TDs and had 1 int, but had 5 fumbles, people would point at the low QBR and say... SEE! I told you, passer rating doesn't tell the story!!

Passer rating is genuinely the worst way to measure performance. It weighs completion % insanely heavy. Cam’s career passer rating is 85. What does that tell you about him as a passer? Absolutely nothing. It’s a garbage stat.

Its something like 30% that make it back to their top PFF rating, and thats everyone included. Cant help but think 330 lb guys have a rougher go at it

The thing that stands out to me is the guys who have been drafted since, some of them pretty low, are out progressing and flat outplaying Young. It isn’t one guy either. It is several. So much of it comes down to skill set. Physical tools. They have more of them. Height is a component in this. A large portion of the stuff with Bryce comes from his poor field vision, which is 100% height related.

exactly, people are being way too casual about this injury. but this is also the board that thought he could play the day after having an appendectomy

on the athletic football podcast they said this injury has a 50% RETIREMENT rate in other words we are probably screwed. I don't know if he ever plays tackle again. Maybe he kicks inside to guard in 2027 Either way this severely fugs us because I really wanted to take either LB or EDGE in round 1 of the draft but now we almost have to take a tackle if one is there

Coker is an absolute must resign; highest priority imo with Ickey's injury I put Yosh just below that Mays is tricky, I want to keep him but someone might pay him considerably Brady is a player I would be loath to lose too Jansen should be here until he retires everyone else on there I am either ambivalent or want them off my starting lineup (cough Rozeboom cough)

I don’t want stroud or hurts tbh

Now look at QBR, on the left buddy. The stat that isn’t just a box score lumped into one number.

You guys understand that if we argue that the stat is wonky, worthless, non reality reflecting, anything like that, we are doing it because we hate Bryce. Because we are haters, liars, biased, casuals, all kinds of stuff you don’t want to be called. I have never understood some of these stats. They don’t consistently reflect what I have watched. That graph with the 3rd down efficiency, absolutely lines up with what I saw this season, for example. This QB rating, the PFF stuff, not so much. And certainly those non scientific grades from ESPN personalities.

Blake needs to stay. I’m open for other trades.

5 years is plenty of time to develop a mediocre backup QB.

I don’t hundred percent agree with the last paragraph, considering what was invested. But when Reich told them the truth about the footwork issues, and seeing Young was not prepared for the under center game, and obviously Reich did not think he should be starting… a good franchise would have respected his opinion and let him handle the QB the way he thought best.

Dante Moore next draft?

QBR is really indeed a weird metric. Josh Allen's MVP season, his Pro Football Reference Approximate Value was 20 and they gave high QBR of 74.8 rating. Cam Newton's MVP season, his Pro Football Reference Approximate Value was 21 and they gave him QBR of 61.4 rating.

That seems more likely to be true than not true.