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That's fair. The goal posts definitely moved after some of our wins this year.

Need a proper OC and a DC type guy being the HC. If he can’t call the plays he needs to bounce because this culture is too soft. Give me Rivera, or Fox type HC any day.

If that’s the case then canales and Morgan are blind, I want to believe that tepper is just chillin and letting Dave and Dan do their thing but they’re seeing the same thing we are but with a lot more information, film, advance stats etc and still think sub 200 yards per game and like 4 ypa is a winning formula? Would understand more if we didn’t just have a game where our RBs got a total of 9 touches while averaging 5 yard per carry, it just doesn’t add up

Yeah that was so stupid

Exactly. He’s going to have to look like Mahomes the next 5 games for Morgan to take the option. He’s more likely to get traded on his 4th year or go against real competition. I’m not a football executive but I’d really just get him out ASAP this offseason so there is no chance of having him come back in next year and fool everyone into another deal.

All ceilings are high if you're 5'9'x

There isn’t yet, there will be though. I just worry about the QB depth in the draft. Us trading up to 1 in a very bad QB draft got us into this. I would rather take a rental guy like Winston than do that again.

I’m out on canales, this is like the 3rd or 5th game where it’s clear to run the ball and put it in our best players hands and he goes full pass game extraordinaire Seems like he’s confused on wether to trust young or not, before the half we’re burning clock with 3 timeouts and a chance to get in fg range, constantly chasing points for no reason, these are bad mistakes by a hc, you get in games that matter and these mistakes are glaring, like they have been

Said it before, I avoided his articles, interviews, pressers, all of it for a long time because I don’t want it personalized. I mean I knew nothing about him when I ‘scouted’ him and came to the ‘aw hell no’ conclusion in less than an hour. But you can’t avoid it forever, and I came to learn that he has great character afa I can tell, is a really good kid, and if he could play I would absolutely be a huge fan. God gave him everything but that NFL player gift. Sorry Bryce I can’t do it.

I’m old enough to remember Canales not calling preseason plays because after 2 years of calling plays in the NFL and just one with this team…..other people needed the reps more than him

Didn’t Morgan do that towards the end? One of his last concussions he was throwing up on the sideline. Maybe Tampa Bay if I remember right?

Hell no to Sellers. Dude is another Anthony Richardson in the making. Find someone that already knows how to be a qb. The problem with those reclamation qb's are there's not any available this offseason. But this will be a test for this FO in the offseason. What they do will determine whether I tune in next season.

Hence the part that if they pick up the 5th a lot of jobs are on the line with that outcome. Morgan and DC most certainly. They draft a guy or get a decent vet then the clock somewhat resets. Saying you are rolling with BY for 2 more years is signing your death wish if it doesnt work

He will just give it to his buddy Brad. It will be the same thing. They need that to happen so they can watch film late.

Everyone shitting on Tepper about being impatient. He’s trying to prove he’s not impatient. Tepper in 2020 would have gotten rid of Bryce already. He’s also probably waiting on Canales and Morgan to say they are done with it. If he makes them, it’s hard to hold them accountable later. Part of “stepping back”

Somebody will pick him up thinking they can fix him. Probably through a cheap trade with Morgan. He will play in a normal offense not tailored to him and it will be a fuging disaster.

Personally I still feel if we dont pick up the 5th there is no point in him being here, it clearly shows we dont have faith in him and it would be pretty much (sans danny dimes) unprecedented. And we saw how that ended badly and on the flip side we are seeing the mistake of extending mediocre play (Tua, Murray, Jones). Its either evident they can play or move on. Thats how this game is played in the new rookie contract era.

So who writes the divorce article this time? Person wrote the one that ultimately ended Rhule. Fowler wrote the one that fired Reich and ultimately pushed Tepper back. Will it be Mike Kaye that ends Bryce?

hes made his money he can most certainly GTFO

I fully agree with you and think the Panthers will bring in a free agent QB to compete with Bryce Young, and possibly draft one if there is one available they like. I’m not sure who ends up starting, ( hopfully not Bryce Young ) but I think you go into camp with a QB competition and let it play out

This draft class is weak other than maybe Mendoza. And it looks like many are returning. I would really rather take a chance on getting another Darnold, Mayfield, Geno Smith, Daniel Jones story. Than draft in a weak class like we did with Bryce. I can already see us taking LaNorris Sellers to turn him into Cam to realize he’s Anthony Richardson.

It is brutal alright. I hope we won’t argue over degrees of GTFO.

I think the fact that his leash has been long is the most deflating part, like what on gods green earth are they seeing to give such a long leash for sub par performance over the stretch of 3 years…..the fact that they were willing to flush 2 season down the drain without bringing in any real competition and continue the coddle fest isn’t very encouraging

Bryce has beaten falcons 4 times and rest of league 8 times. All by 3 or less or in OT except for Jets 13-7. Bryce had only beaten two playoff teams ever Houston and GB fuging brutal

I would be more generous than that, and have never wanted anything to do with him. Poison pill that he is. I probably give maybe 4 actual good games and about the same number of okay, not his usual lose the game for us games. Out of 40.