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I had someone argue with me the other day that his career had been similar through three seasons of starting. I mean....define "similar." It definitely hasn't been statistically nor results.

It would be bad to fire Canales after the team has improved from absolute trash to winning some games. Especially given our recent history of hirings and firings. I think its smart to give him another year, even if you're not sold on him. Bryce is the next guy who's gotta go.

On the season his stat line versus NO is: 8 completions on 12 targets, 157 yds, 3 TD's, 0 INT's, 2 Passes Deflected Half of his total TD's allowed has been to the Saints. The Saints have absolutely dominated him.

Hes just like drew brees

If people can't see how bad he is now, I am just not really sure what else it is going to take.

Loving the historical revisionism about a first overall player we spent multiple first round picks on ”actually he was always going to be late career Jeff Garcia”

Bryce young isn’t the worst qb in the league because Nathan Peterman hasn’t filed retirement papers. Check mate, haters

If you’re talking about the Kenny Pickett and JJ Mccartheys of the world then what point are you even trying to make

He is actually tied for the 2nd most targeted player on the Panthers this season at 58(or 4.5 Targets/GM). He is behind Mike Jackson's 82 targets(5.9/GM). They both do pretty well with QB Rating. Jackson allowing a 77.7 and Horn a 70.9. Hilariously, Rosebum is tied with 58 targets. Opposing teams know. Lol. Back to the cluster of missed tackles, there appears to be none. He has missed 2 tackles in a game twice this season and has recorded missed tackles in 9 of 13 games.

Short list means there is a list. That means he isn't the worst. Not even in your eyes.

On what basis? How many teams are trading their starting QB for ours? Not talking about backups forced into starting roles, I'm talking about guys who went into the season as planned starters? How many of those guys are getting traded for Bryce Young if the offer was on the table? It's a really short list.

Let me see if they are in a group or spread out.

Yeah, I never said he wasn't. Though I don't necessarily agree with that. My only point was that sack wasn't on him. It was on the LT. You can argue alot about things he doesn't do well, but he definitely avoided 4-5 sacks in that game alone.

Yeah, I think people are missing on that part when they are saying "no big deal." Remember how often Donte Jackson got called out for this? Well....he has a lower missed tackle percentage over the past two seasons than Jaycee Horn does. Make no mistake, this is not good.

Cover 0 is a tough ask when there is no immediate pressure. a good wr should win that more than not.

So glad to hear, that after 3 years with Young, 2 years with Canales and Idzik are ‘worjong on things’ related to getting extremely short yardage because they dont want to use young on sneaks. It is mind boggling It isnt like they havent known his height and weight up close and personal if i were the owner, id be finding a better OC or a better QB to come in for Young if they insist on keeping him it ised to be done fir Brees all the time Why Panthers’ Dave Canales won’t run a QB sneak with Bryce Young Mike Kaye [email protected] 7 hrs ago Carolina Panthers quarterback Bryce Young scrambled on a broken play on third-and-3 with 11:47 remaining in the fourth quarter on Sunday at Caesars Superdome. He ran for two yards, just shy of the first-down marker against the New Orleans Saints. Head coach Dave Canales, with a 17-7 lead on the road, decided to go for it on fourth-and-1 from the New Orleans 37-yard line. Canales called a handoff from under center to running back Chuba Hubbard, but the ball-carrier was curbed at the line of scrimmage, forcing a turnover on downs within field-goal range. The Panthers eventually lost, 20-17, in the NFC South showdown. A lot of teams would go for a QB sneak on fourth-and-inches in enemy territory. But the Panthers have yet to try that during Young’s three-year career in Carolina. According to Canales, the decision to not use Young on QB sneaks is about physics. “He goes about 190 pounds,” Canales said with a shoulder shrug. “And when you have a 220, 230-pound quarterback leaning on a center, that’s an advantage. When you’re not putting a bunch of force that way, I don’t see that as an advantage.” “The other part is I like to leverage off of some of the formations that we use to throw shots down the field,” Canales added. “You get in a third-and-inches, and you’re in dive or belly type of plays, it allows you to try to throw a keeper or throw a play-action (passes), and we’ve had some success over the course of the last two seasons, finding explosives in short-yardage at a higher rate than most teams who are going to sneak it.” The logic behind not using Young — officially listed as 5-foot-10 and 204 pounds — in a pile is sound, if not obvious. But the lack of a sneak play also highlights a dearth of trusty baseline options in the tightest of short-yardage situations. “It’s great to have a sneak,” Canales said. “It’s great when you can — man, it’s a half-yard or something — and you know you can execute it with your quarterback. It’s great to have in your back pocket. But that’s not our style. So, we just try to maximize our approach.” When it was suggested that a tight end sneak might make sense during Monday’s press conference, Canales said that he and offensive coordinator Brad Idzik are trying to find new solutions. “We’re working on stuff,” Canales said.

steelers did it last night. Rodgers just stood back about 3 yards behind the los with his hands in his handwarmer.

Definitely the loneliest. There's no one to bail you out when you're in cover 0.

You can cherry pick to support any claim you want to make going play by play. But Bryce's overall picture of production doesn't lie. He's one of the worst starting QBs in the NFL.

It's like poker, you can misplay a hand and win and you can play a hand perfectly and lose. Over the course of an entire tournament, the players who play better tend to do better. So, sometimes Bryce doesn't deserve all the credit for a win just like he sometimes doesn't deserve all the blame for a loss. Now what he DOES deserve a lot of blame for is his career 13-28 record. Turns out, he's very bad!

One of those situations can potentially be recovered from but your C allowing a guy free up the middle is the worst case scenario for an OL pass protection. There is a reason this gets discussed very frequently.

Canalas needs a gunslinger in my opinion. Someone to hand off the ball and then throw long play action passes. Bryce was never that guy. I don't think Bryce fits with Canalas schemes.

Progressive slot machine at the casino.

DB might be the hardest position to play on a football field next to QB.