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Trey Lance? Dude didn’t even play and when he did play he got hurt. He was also pretty good the games he played. Kenny Pickett? Playoffs, No? Mac Jones had 20+ touchdowns passes and went to the playoffs. EJ Manuel wasn’t great but he looked better beating the Panthers than Bryce did at any point last year. He was on Josh Rosen’s level, if not worse. Maybe even Johnny Manziel and Manziel didn’t study or do much of anything. He also hardly played his rookie year.

I think Maye will end up being the best and I think Nix will come in and play like a Veteran this year. He is better than Mac Jones and he's definitely better than Kenny Picket. What Nix did at Oregon translates well to the modern NFL and in particular, it translates to Payton.

Denver went 8-9 last year with their poo show. If they aren't a poo show this year, odds are they improve. I wouldn't write off Denver due to Payton and I wouldn't write off New England considering their defense is still really good and now they have a likely NFL Rookie of the Year Candidate at QB. To even mention them in the same breath as the Panthers is a joke.

To me, his weaknesses sound like it's related to how the defensive line plays. If he doesn't trust the line to be where they are supposed to be, he may feel the need to jump on misdirection, he may have to commit more than he wants to one play type or another, and he was likely always getting head on blocks in A Gap and B Gap blitzing, rather than just getting chipped because his line couldn't hold their spot. You can't coach his strengths. You can coach his weaknesses and you can help him by having a dominant middle.

We looked like poo? That's revisionist history my friend.

And what makes you believe Richardson is or will be a bust? Dude was iffy throwing the ball his rookie year but so was Josh Allen. You want to scrap him after an injury shortened season with Shane Steichen as his head coach, go ahead. odds are not in your favor there.

89% on his career with 33 of 35 in 2022? That isn’t good?

That’s a low bar to reach man. Highly unlikely we win less than 3 games but I’d say it’s even more unlikely we win more than 4 games.

My order for the draft was this: 1. Stroud 2. Levis 3. Richardson 4. DTR 5. Bryce The top three are three rounds better than DTR or Bryce. Just because someone else would’ve taken Bryce if we hadn’t doesn’t make them right either. I’ve also seen people comparing Bryce and Caleb Williams but Williams has something Bryce doesn’t, and that is speed, belief, swagger, and arm strength. I think Williams, Daniels, Maye, and Nix all have the chance to be better than everyone from 2023, including Stroud. Maybe not this year, but in their career. Now 2025 is a QB Desert unless you want someone like Cam Ward or Carson Beck, neither of which are ideal. I know I’d draft Joey Aguilar later in the draft. Dude has an NFL arm and RG3 confirmed as much after watching him throw in the monsoon that was the Cure Bowl.

You don't luck into two Super Bowls bud.

You're comparing Bryce Young to 2x Super Bowl Champion Eli Manning?

Darnold put it together here when Wilks took over. The Saints game was awful but somehow it was awful for both teams. Neither wanted to win. Had Ickey not completely forgot how to play football in the 4th quarter against the Bucs, Darnold takes the Panthers to the playoffs. I would trade Bryce for Darnold right now. Darnold with Canales and a heavy play action, ground and pound style offense would be good.

Bryce threw some bad balls that would make that appear to be the case. He was often late on throws and Chark bailed him out several times.

Bryce takes a full 1.5 seconds to get set after taking a snap. I don't know who was coaching him on that but man, talk about wasted motions.

The UGA game from Stroud is all anyone should've needed to see. Bryce had big moments but the biggest thing I noticed, and pointed out, was that he was always scrambling around despite having good protection. This was seen as a positive from evaluators but I saw it as a negative. He couldn't make plays, or throws, on time and from the pocket. People saw the scrambling and compared him to a mini-Patrick Mahomes because that works in college. It does not work in the NFL. I ended up being right.

That's also how Sean Payton described Bo Nix during their Rookie Camp. He said he looked like a golfer in that he just makes everything look effortless and that he's essentially perfected his fundamentals to the point that they are the exact same every time. Bo Nix, in my opinion, will end up being the "steal" of the draft and everyone will wonder how he dropped to 12. Watching him this past year, it was like watching a coach out on the field just picking defenses apart. He may not have the physical characteristics of a Williams or Daniels but I believe his experience and mental accuity gives him a shot to be better. I still think that Drake Maye has the highest ceiling of them all though. I said this after Week 2 of 2022 when they played in Boone and he didn't have a single off target throw despite being under duress much of the game. Dude was throwing darts.

Bro, Put that on a T-Shirt, I will buy it. I've been asking myself this for four years now.

Or that one play is all that Bryce was capable of? Bryce is an issue. To say that Frank fuging Reich, a longtime NFL back-up and coach, would not see a need to “develop” a Rookie QB is hilarious and wrong. now I wanted Steve Wilks to be retained, but this comment is pure garbage.

Jack Plummer was surprisingly underrated in this draft. He didn’t exactly have the best team before he got to Louisville and given one more year at Louisville I feel he would’ve been drafted.

How would Brooks be 100% after a November ACL tear? I’d be fine if he didn’t play until November.

I really hope Bryce is there. He needs all of the physical and mental reps he can get considering he can’t see the field.

He deserves more respect than he gets here. He didn’t have the longevity we wanted but he was a huge part of getting to Super Bowl 50.

I mean, the commentary surrounding Purdy is very similar to the commentary surrounding Brady his first few years. All the guy has done is win and he’s only going to get better as time goes on. He may not fit your idea of “Game Breaker” but the results speak for themselves. You’re going to counter with “but Kyle Shanahan” and that plays a role, as does any coach-QB combo. Where would Mahomes be without Andy Reid? Certainly not three super bowls deep.

Better than Bryce...

Marvin Harrison Jr. may be the best wide receiver in the NFL in 2024. Legette is not going to be better in 2024, or ever. You can't coach what Harrison does and what Harrison has.