DaveThePanther2008

Currently at #8 Stroud is probably 99.5% out of the equation.

Yeah, I am sure Tepper has a few spurs in his ass over this lose. The one time where we could have beat them and we got manhandled offensively and defensively. I think at this point a deep run in the playoffs is his only hope and with a 5-9 record that seems highly unlikely.

I swear it was the same fk'ing play every single time. Henderson got burned over and over again on the same out route. Our defensive game plan fit perfectly for what they did. They got the ball out of Trubisky's hands quickly and we just kept doing the same thing. Very disappointed since our HC is supposed to be a defensive minded coach. What gets me is we did nothing to change our approach.

Other than Moore none of these guys can get open. Pittsburgh went man to man. Any receiver worth his salt should be able to beat one on one. I give you Marshall is young and improving but we need a lights out WR. I watched part of the Miami game on Saturday. Did you see Waddle's TD. Once he caught the ball it was game over. He went into overdrive and left all the DBs in the dust. It had me laughing because he made the CBs look like linemen and just walked away from them. We need someone like that. I love DJ Moore. But IMO, he's a #2 WR. If you get him a WR like Q. Johnson he becomes a terror to defenses. Without a guy like him. DJ gets his numbers but not nearly what it could be. OC more than QB. I love the ground and pound football, when it works, but we must have an offensive mind that can counter a defense that we played today. If you take away our running game and try to one on one us, you'll pay dearly.

This team is in dire need of some offensive weapons. Our TE's can't block, and they can't get open and if they do, they don't catch the ball. We have one receiver we can count on to catch the ball consistently. Pittsburgh played man to man most of the game and we have NO one other than Moore step up. Marshall is sporadic, Smith is hit or miss, Shenault a RB playing WR, he can barely catch a cold. I understand that we need a QB but, if we don't get the one we want we need to address our need for offensive weapons. The last thing we need to do is reach for a QB when there is a stud TE or WR sitting there at our pick.

It was mentioned last week that this game against Tepper's old team would go a long way in deciding Wilks's fate. I can't believe they allowed Pittsburgh to absolutely out muscle them. Pittsburgh was playing with a nasty attitude, and you could tell we never matched it. The entire game plan was abysmal and we didn't make one adjustment. We were totally outplayed, outcoached and outclassed by a bad Pittsburgh team.

Steve Wilks battle cry carries the the Team Panther's PROTECT THE BANK WIN 31-10

If Moore can't go or is limited it could be a blessing in disguise. Our other WR are going to have to step up and make some plays. They won't just key on Moore. Pittsburgh's defense in no where near as good as they usually are. Their offensive line is in shambles. I watched a Youtube video from a Steelers standpoint and they didn't have much faith in this game. They basically said their LT was a turnstile similar to M. Kalil. What I do find that might be interesting is that they may stack the box but we are also bringing in more OLinemen in to open holes. If we get into the second level we could have a few big runs.

Then why have divisions? It doesn't happen too often, but a division leader comes out with a losing record. No big deal. You can be assured the NFL will NEVER do something so stupid.

Wilks has first hand knowledge of Corral. He's never said one thing one way or the other. As we drop further down the draft board the likelihood of getting a QB that is going to be considered a franchise changer gets slimmer. As we drop, hopefully, we focus on getting a starter in round one. Whatever position we need. Fitterer IMO is going to lay out Corral's skills and why we drafted him. The new coach would listen and make that a part of our path in the draft. No team is going into the draft with only one position as their target in round one or any other round. As the draft unfolds the new coach and GM are going to make a decision. Whether a QB or any other position. Wilks got screwed in Arizona and if he truly believes a QB in this draft is what he wants and is our best option than we'll go for it. I can see where that would be a point we would pick his QB. But saying that's he is ONLY focusing on a QB because he got screwed in Arizona doesn't make sense. I'll say this, if we do draft a QB in round 1, I'll be onboard with it. I will silently hope that Corral gives him a run for his money. I think we (you and I) agree that Rhule really screwed us on his handling of Corral. Not giving him real Reps put us in this conversation.

WELL OVER

As we win, we are dropping further and further down the list of potentially a starting QB. If we drop out of the top 10 we are drafting a QB that has many issues and will probably overreach on a QB.

First you assume we are getting a new head coach. Secondly, you assume that your head coach, new or Wilks, don't like Corral. You over valued the IR'd situation. Based on this logic SF will be moving on from Lance because he got IR'd and didn't look good in his starts. You're new coach may value a great TE or wants another edge rusher to improve an already good defense. You assume that the new HC won't bring a QB with him. You're all assumption. I don't know what a new coach, if we go that route, will want in the upcoming draft. It could be a QB or it may be something else. They may think that Corral has some qualities they can work with. You nor I know for sure. You just assume that the new coach is automatically only going to focused on QB.

I love that everyone assumes that the new HC, if we don't keep Wilks, is automatically going to think that any of these QBs in this draft are leaps and bounds better than Corral. They may be or they may not. Every one of them have their question marks. I do agree the room will look different but it may be Corral and a free agent and either Darnold or a rookie. Not normally. We actually got a good deal on that because normally when you trade for a pick with a next year pick you have to give up a higher round. Hate to tell you this but the new head coach will be working with the GM that selected him so it isn't irrelevant.

I can partially agree with this but we traded away a pick to get him. It isn't like we used our own pick to get him. I think we saw more in him that just a backup. Time will tell.

We traded away a valuable 3rd round to pick a QB that ceiling is a backup? 1st rounds are starters, 2nd and 3rd round are players that should be starters in a year or so. We traded away a pick to get him to be a backup? It would be tough to believe he wouldn't be groomed for a starter if we used our own pick but we felt he has a future and traded away a pick for him. I think most underestimate his potential. I

In the Corral Reminder He faced insurmountable odds as it was and now those odds are astronomical since he had a major injury He will at worst split the first team reps with a vet and MC will just get the scraps. What part of these comments don't say he's a bust?

Not deflecting at all just showing your double standard.

Aren't you and @mrcompletely11 the same ones that have already written off Corral as a potential QB for us based on a preseason game?

Show me where I called him a bust. I said he looked terrible. Absolutely terrible.

Fair enough. What gets me is the double standard. Lance gets all the he's developing love while Purdy gets it's only because he's playing in a good system. Maybe it's both, maybe not.

Show me where I did this?

I said he looked terrible. Absolutely terrible. I didn't say he was a bust. I was saying he look terrible. Compare him to Purdy who has been with the team less than a year and look 1000% better than Lance.

Brass judgement? Purdy had almost as many completed passes in a row than Lance had the whole game. Lance also had Samuel in the line-up. You and @mrcompletely11 make all these excuses why Lance looked so bad but discount Purdy's performance as JAG behind a great coach. Why's that?

I'm more impressed with Purdy's play than I am for a QB that SF traded 3 first round picks for. Aren't you?