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He didn't have the same time to prepare as the others. He was rusty. Even still, he wasn't bad. Let s get serious; am I going to let a pro day outweigh actual game days--the tape? I will compare his body of work favorably to any QB coming out of this class. It's pretty good, shows marked progress of Corral notwithstanding coaching changes, and highlights superior competition.

I like that he worked on his issues and pretty much showed notable progress despite having to change coaches and systems. I also liked the fact that he competed in the SEC. It's a rough conference.

Corral doesn't see himself as an entitled star. Read the article I posted above. They are different as night and day.

That's pretty much it as I can see. Now of course he has had depression (maybe all stemming from that, IDK), but are we really going to hold that against him? I mean, I guess someone might, but I won't. https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/matt-corral-opens-up-on-battle-with-depression-sugar-bowl-injury-as-he-aims-to-be-qb-1-this-draft-020308363.html

It all stemmed from a fight he got into with Wayne Gretzky's kid. He made some comments about the rich being entitled and receiving special treatment. This is a short read: https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2021/10/matt-corral-7/

I would assume the latter. People are holding exploits against him committed while in high school.

He played legit competition at Ole Miss. He's the only QB out of the top guys that I personally want in the first round (though admittedly pick 6 might be a stretch). I said as much months ago now. He's enigmatic as opposed to the others, so at least I can dream he'll be a franchise-level QB one day as opposed to JAG or a bust like I see some of the others becoming.

Not exactly sure why you'd wait until the first three are gone. They're certainly not going by pick 6. The goal is to try and trade back and still get your guy.

Me too, but I'll be highly surprised if we do draft him at 6. He's raw as hell, and I just don't see any good coming from it. He needs time to learn, point blank and period.

That's about the size of it. You're not going to be a legit team in the NFL by drafting inferior players at a needed position to the detriment of superior players at a not-so-needed position. If players are close, perhaps you have decisions to make; if players aren't close, it would behoove you to draft the obviously more talented guy and work things out.

Good. We have the technology to make the game better, and we need to implement it sooner rather than later so that all the kinks can be worked out for the betterment of the product going well into the 21st century.

That's fair. But we saw glimpses of at least two quality starters in Horn and BC. I haven't mentioned the upside of Tremble, Hubbard or Marshall. Part of not seeing results was just bad luck, and part of it was just coaching. But it's all about perspective. Drafting is about projections. Most of our players had at least decent projections, and I light of the state of the team right now, I'm certainly not going to give up on them so soon. I've heard something to the effect that if you get one or two starters out of a draft that you've done pretty well. I think at the end of the day, we'll have more than that out of 2021's draft. We're just going to have to be patient.

Well that's kind of the point. The only way things will change is if regular people stop playing the game of politics as manipulated by plutocrats at the behest of the oligarchs. Honestly, most of the people in Congress need to be fired. Without the support of Congress, the ultra-rich's schemes would be laid out for what they are and put to an end. The only way that's going to happen is if the proletariat changes its mind--get something on its mind other than the divisive politics of the 20th century, and elects new people with new ideas that actually work for the people as opposed to the ultra rich.

Maybe I'll give him some motivation... Tepper should pay for his own fu<king facility. It's not like he doesn't have the money to do it. But, alas, it's the American way. Mis-leadership that the dumb and woefully ignorant keep putting into office are plutocrats who do the bidding of the oligarchs because it keeps these plutocrats in office. They do the bidding of the super rich (in hopes of becoming oligarchs themselves), and give the proletariat rhetoric steeped in divisive--sometimes racist--language that bespeaks of all these supposedly cultural and ideological differences that they prop up in order to ensure that the populace falls in line and keeps lining their pockets. We see it with subsidies to Big Petro, Big Pharma, and many other industries. Dumb Americans in South Carolina indirectly support all kinds of gross giveaways to big business like Exxon, Monsanto, Haliburton and Amazon (to name a very slight few), yet decry David Tepper and the NFL for doing the same thing. This nation is run by hypocrites, yet stupid people continue to put them in office over and over and over again, because they can't see beyond a purposefully-fueled culture war that is a tool of manipulation to keep lining the pockets of the rich to the detriment of the average person. Sure, Tepper strongarming Rock Hill is a problem, but he's just playing in a bigger game. The rules are the bigger issue, and until people wake up and stop playing the games of the Republicans and Democrats, this is how things are going to be.

Ekwonu's nickname was apparently given to him because some coach thought he favored Ickey Woods. LOL

I get the reasoning, and I think that it's sound. The only thing is that I'm thinking Sewell was our "top of the board player" last season. Horn was perhaps a strong consolation. The question is who is the "strong consolation"--or A strong consolation--this year because I believe they may be gone. No one's gonna "surprise" us this year and take our top pick right before us...he (and maybe even the strong consolation) will be gone!

I could see a player, but I don't see them trading next year's first. The ONLY way I see that is if they feel strongly that one of these QBs is a legit franchise QB. I think Fitterer understands and appreciates the value of first round picks too much to trade them willy-nilly or the ability that said pick gives him the ability to maneuver and finesse (if you understand what I'm saying). Now next year's 2nd or beyond... hopefully they've learned something from this year... Cross is all over first round mocks. Top 10 value is not necessarily a thing with Cross on boards I've seen. Ikwonu is definitely rated higher. I couldn't see passing on him because of his motor and "nastiness", particularly in the run game. But, I admittedly don't know lineman like that, and I certainly believe that O-lineman are a bigger gamble than other positions. Like, Ickey or Cross has a higher bust potential than Sauce or London for example...

He's too old and experienced to be publicly expressing such thoughts. What a knucklehead!

Only a few of the rich get richer. It's not a good deal for the average person.

How awful!

What the hell are you talking about--suggesting? If you don't know the proper language of football, then perhaps you should take a gander at hundreds of articles and draft profiles on record since the evolution of the modern NFL. Here are some regarding Sam Darnold! "poor decision-making" https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/35698/benching-sam-darnold-might-be-best-step-in-fixing-carolina-panthers-offense%3fplatform=amp "...but his lower half mechanics and decision making could prevent him from becoming a top tier NFL QB..." https://turnonthejets.com/2018/06/sitting-sam-darnold-in-year-one-lower-half-mechanics-decision-making/ "Darnold attributed his first interception to 'poor decision-making.'" https://www.panthers.com/news/sam-darnold-i-m-fully-aware-i-didn-t-play-my-best-football "Making wiser decisions when he’s on the move might be a good start." https://www.google.com/amp/s/nesn.com/2021/11/stat-suggests-panthers-sam-darnold-shouldnt-throw-on-run-anymore/amp/ After harping on the decision-making, Rhule said he'll wait until he reviews the film before making any big statements on Darnold's future. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/sam-darnold-on-3-to-day-in-panthers-loss-i-m-fully-aware-i-didn-t-play-my-best-f "Thus far, his decision-making has been questionable." https://withthefirstpick.com/2018/02/10/2018-nfl-draft-sam-darnold-strengths-weaknesses/3/ There are many more examples...Damn, SizzleMuzz. Just because someone does not have the mental processing speed or even acuity to make good decisions under pressure doesn't necessarily speak to a person's raw intellectual ability. Good grief, man!

Many of the criticisms of Darnold's college tape are the same criticisms that people have today. He essentially hasn't learned a thing. His ball security and decision making are just atrocious.

Absolutely love that gif.

Why would you spout such meritless drivel. Why? Barner apparently is investing his money wisely and has a net worth somewhere between 1-5 mil, though most sites say 3. Apparently he's involved in apparel (including selling Yeezy's), kennels and investing in commercial real estate (if I am to believe his IG profile. In any event, he's a levelheaded family man that also hails from a good family. He gave his Patriots ring to his dad as a Father's Day gift. Do your research before making assumptions!

I said to myself, "Well I'll be damned," before I scrolled down and saw your response. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good (not to say that he hasn't been a good role player, backup and bench warmer).