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Tepper has had a really atrocious start himself, and doesn't have any type of success to show for it. But, point taken (read below). I mean, fans are going to have issues sometimes. When you say "early on", are you talking year three like we have here? I'm speaking solely football of course (but, yeah, they haven't improved the Sabers yet, but it's a more difficult task). Tepper is going into his 4th season (and it's technically his 5th). I know that at least on the Bills side of things, they are doing a lot better than us. I guess for Bills-Sabers fans it's a little more complex and difficult to separate what the Pegulas have done on the football side from the hockey side. Where I will fully admit my ignorance is the fact that they are making noises about to Austin, but many people believe that's just a ploy to strongarm Buffalo and taxpayers for new facilities. Tepper hasn't said anything like that this far, but his recent actions, including his silence, has me very uncomfortable.

I agree. That's why I mentioned "offensive coordination". I don't rightly know who to blame more, but I believe it's poor QB play. In any event, I'd like to see Robby used more effectively, not press this year and catch the damned ball. D.J. needs to make plays at key times, particularly in the end zone. There shouldn't be any more meat left on the bone due to drops in key moments.

Pegula Consolation: Not current or past Tepper.

Yeah, as long as they're named Neal or Ekwonu.

Yardage has never been a problem with Moore. Take the guys that you put him in the company of and compare scores. That's where the issue is. Sure he's had sketchy QB play, but he's put up yardage as I would expect for the leading receiver on a team. Now, he must translate that to scores before I'm putting him in such company. Maybe I'm old school, but that's just the way I see it.

I'd say that Fittererer did pretty well with his extension of D.J. Moore and, yes, Robby Anderson (yeah, I said it). And, the thing is, I'd argue that they got the numbers right considering each receiver's entire body of work thus far. Yes, Robby had a down year, and Moore has not shown to be a prolific scorer, but I believe there's a decent chance that both will improve upon their perceived weaknesses in a way that their value will be easily seen the next couple of seasons, provided that we can get NFL level offensive coordination (which I believe is a decent possibility) and at least average QB play (which is a bigger question). Either way, I don't think that we'll be able to blame D.J. or Robby and what they make as a detriment to offensive woes in 2022. Add in the other guys, and our receiving corps should be a good ROI for a couple of years.

So you say. Neither Fields nor Jones actually lit the world on fire (and, yeah, it was their rookie season, but, still, they could have genuinely flashed more). Each draft helps constitute a franchise, but a draft still must be scrutinized unto itself. Every year brings a different situation.

If you have to rip your shirt open, you already know the answer.

Why ANYONE would put it past him, I don't know. But I hope that he never does it because fans would abandon his team in droves. All the CAROLINA Panthers sh¡t that I've bought over the years... He wasn't my first or second choice. No loyalty to the region, it seems. He bought the Panthers, but he may not have bought in to Carolina. We will know when and if he does, but he isn't there as of this moment.

Nah. I'll give them a 3rd. A 2nd is simply too high because it likely has long term implications of opportunity costs, and Mayfield is not worth that. Otherwise just grin and bear Darnold for a year and keep our day one and two picks for 2023 sacred.

Sounds like some variation of Sam Darnold to me.

College is an entirely different animal. More than a few QBs carry their teams in college. That doesn't mean they're going to carry their teams in the pros. Remember that the smart scouts are zeroing in on traits.

Translation: there's nothing special about Pickett that should warrant a sixth pick. He's not a QB whose shoulders the team can stand upon when the going gets tough. When he meets another playoff-caliber team with a superior QB, that's the end of the line.

"Smokescreen" may not have been the exact right word, although I kinda believe that they'd prefer to trade down and get either Corral or Pickett, and any "buzz" that they're generating about Willis may be to that end.

Damn! I've been avoiding this thread for hours because of the title. You could've floored me when I realized it was Zod's.

Probably a smokescreen. But, we shall see.

He's the one dude "heard the most buzz about", but nothing is hardly see in stone.

Eh. The part that most excites me is that they don't want to get fleeced on a Garropolo or Mayfield trade. That's music to my ears. They're actually learning.

No it's not.

I don't think any one of them will be on the GQ cover any time soon. Just saying.

Stopping because it was causing you problems, and stopping because it is a problem are two totally different things. I have never been an alcoholic, but when I was in school I drank quite a bit and was told that I had a problem. Well, as a sophomore, I reflected upon it. By the time was an upperclassman, I would still drink on occasion, I just wouldn't abuse it. That's how I have rolled for more than three decades. We don't all mature at the same time or about the same things. Anyone who doesn't understand that fact is either woefully ignorant, wilfully provocative, simpleminded or just plain stupid.

I'll just wait and see. It's hard to predict rankings at this point in the process. Like is customary, we really won't know what type of team we have until some time in October. If we're rolling with Darnold, we'll probably suck though. That's about as much as I can halfway commit to at this point. I will keep overall expectations pretty low though.

I've seen Cross projected in the 20s, and with some of the deficiencies I've seen from profiles, the 20s is probably about right.

"Triggered" is a wee bit hyperbolic. Perhaps I could have used a more politically correct phrase than "beginning to sound like mouth breathers", I'll admit, but I stand by the fact that nobody ultimately knows which off these QBs will be the best, or how they'll compare to other players at other positions in this draft. Within the discussion of football, there is also a place for moderation (excuse, the pun). I don't mind differing opinions at all, but I believe that people should actually base those differing opinions on something, and realize (not necessarily acknowledge) that it is an opinion and deliver it as such.

Some of you just seem like mouth breathers at this point. You don't have any idea who or how many QBs in this class will become legitimate starters. Gotdamn, you know more than the scouts! Assuming that Willis or Pickett will outdo one another, much less the enigmatic Corral is a lesson in foolishness. Things never ever play out from a draft as the consensus view from NFL FOs, much less the way some fans believe it will all go down.