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Do you think Tepper is dying or something? I mean, neither he, Rhule, McAdoo or Fitterer look particularly healthy...

Yeah, we know. Someone already suggested the same thing.

I guess that's a stretch perspective. You never really gain picks back when you deal them because you're losing out on the opportunity to stand pat and make picks at your current higher position. Can you do well dealing picks? Sure! But that doesn't mean you wouldn't have done even better staying where you are or keeping a player that you have. The Darnold deal was a bad one.

I was thinking that it's a shoe-in for Daboll. Personally, I think he'd be a smarter hire than Flores considering the familiarity.

At some point, you have to figure that a QB is not a starting QB in the NFL. Darnold has had four years to get it together. Even more, franchise QBs, which are coveted even more, come into the league and give evidence that they are franchise QBs notwithstanding bad O-lines and other suboptimal conditions. I would genuinely give your suggestion more credence if it hadn't been Sam's fourth year in the league of doing the same things, some of which he did in college. I'm fairly certain that I remember a stat which indicated that he was at the bottom of NFL ratings even when he had a clean pocket. In my opinion, it's time to move on from the thought that he's anything more than a questionable backup.

I mean, I get it; there's probably nothing short of firing Matt Rhule that will excite the fan base at the moment, but this doesn't mean McAdoo is automatically a bad hire. He's had some results as as an OC. I'm more interested in his philosophy (queue @Mr. Scot)! Somebody did give evidence that he wasn't a fan of Sammy before Sammy became Sammy, so that speaks to some competence in QB evaluation (just to make you feel better).

It wasn't just that one. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/lists/twitter-panthers-matt-rhule-ben-mcadoo/

Well, being a prick doesn't necessarily mean he'll be a bad OC. In the long run, it may not make a difference anyway. We'll see.

Develop him into being what? They may as well go out and get the Red Rifle, because that's about what I see his ceiling as. These are dark times.

Is it truly lack of confidence, or is it just not being easily given into knee-jerk reactions? Or, possibly just ignorance or arrogance? Tepper and a lack of confidence just don't seem to go together. I certainly don't believe that a lack of confidence is the reason that he hasn't canned Rhule.

Do you think Rhule really means that, or is he just spouting coach-speak to save face?

Well, that's essentially a different argument, and it surely didn't preclude the reset button being reset once Rhule was hired. At either point, a reset was logical (and that's before hindsight making Huddlers appear smarter).

I would argue that the area they've shown that they've done a poor job without question is Teddy's contract and Darnold's contract. Though some disagree, I don't think that fact automatically means that if Rhule and company ever decided that three firsts, or something akin to it, is worth a legit franchise QB, that automatically means that the deal is bad.

Those were more swings and misses due to being in a less than optimal situation. I'm not so sure anyone thought off them as surefire franchise QBs. What made those decisions so eye-raising and utterly bad was either the draft compensation, the structure of the deal or both. Teddy is a higher profile backup at worst and a journeyman stopgap at best. We signed him for too long and for too much money. He should've been on a one-year prove-it deal. If he wouldn't agree to that, we should've let him go to the Bears. We tried to kind of fix it by dumping some of his salary, but then we went batshit crazy again by giving up too much for Darnold (I thought a 4th was about the highest we'd go). What should've been a one-year prove-it deal was inexplicably extended. TLDR: it wasn't the evaluation of the QBs that really did us in, per se, it was the overpayment in draft compensation and money that screwed us. I think where the QB evaluation--in and of itself-- will really be telling in the coming years is the passing up of Justin Fields. On an off note, I remember distinctly telling you that just because Rhule and company weren't high on Fields or Lance didn't mean they were right. And now you're calling Rhule and company all kinds of dumbasses (albeit for different reasons).

It's looking like that we're in a wasted year, no matter what we do, unless we trade some assets and modify our core profoundly. Not enough money, not enough day 1 and 2 draft picks. Darnold on the books to the tune of 18 mil... We may have to view this season as a total reset, or we're going to trade away some high profile players (with an "s") to try and have any semblance of a competitive team in 2022. Now, in your gut, what do you think Rhule and company are going to do? We are behind schedule due to two wasted years in the Rhule era. The reset should've happened when they overpaid for Teddy. That started a bad cycle of overspending for faux competitiveness. Now, we're in a helluva pickle. Hard decisions will have to be made! Ironically, if Rhule felt secure, we may ultimately be better off, but how can he? Basically, we need time.

I will admit, I covet an AJ Dillon type. The Packers should get him involved early this weekend to counteract that 49ers run game.

I think that Chuba can be an effective goal line back. Admittedly he's not your prototypical power back, but he has some juice. I suspect that his play jumps with a higher quality line.

His whole career, but for the clusterfug of last season, says he is.

I don't necessarily think Darnold is going anywhere for obvious reasons, but I can get behind a system based on timing routes and getting the ball out quicker. Perhaps I'm still suffering from the post traumatic stress of it all, but I don't remember seeing many timing routes under Brady (or Nixon). I certainly don't think Darnold can do it, as he's lost in the headlights somewhere, but I'm not sure about Dalton either.

Yeah, for me, take two or three days to cry, but then get back to "regularly scheduled programming." Of course for some, the whining, name-calling and the like is the norm.

I think in many instances, teams luck up on franchise QBs. And of course we know that teams miss every year. There's a whole lot of luck involved. That being the case, if a guy is a legit franchise QB, I think that three firsts are well worth it in most situations. It's a good 10-20 year investment depending upon the circumstances. The guy would have to be very smart though.

Have I missed a change of rules, have a misunderstanding or am I just plain ignorant about the rules? I thought that we could only interview personnel if they are making a vertical move, not a lateral one.

Well said.

If that's the case, then you don't need Twitter, IG, YT or even a website. Everything I mentioned is for fan interest, and information in general. Moreover, one could argue that the website generates the most worthless propaganda of all, depending how you look at it of course. Come on, dude, being a cad is unnecessary.