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Do you watch CJ Stroud and wonder ‘what if’?
Navy_football replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Really? So by explaining that an occurrence was fascilitated by a rare cause, we can't have a productive discussion? That's the definition of a productive discussion. If Bryce threw a 90 yard TD because the defense had 9 men on the field, I would define that as an definitive outlier cause and not the norm. Not trying to make excuses frank. I'm not a Bryce stan. If you can go back, I never even wanted a QB in this draft. But when the Panthers traded up to #1, I thought Stroud should have been the pick - I have my own reasons. But I can still objectively see that Bryce is in a horrible situation - from oline, playcalling, and receivers. Stroud does make his guys better. But they are already significantly better than what's here in Carolina no matter who the QB is. And that's based solely on the eye test. I haven't looked at any stats, past or present. I'm basing that on what I see on game days. -
Do you watch CJ Stroud and wonder ‘what if’?
Navy_football replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Dalton leaned heavily on Thielen just like Bryce does. Take away a big play to Chark, where the defender literally fell down and no one else has over 40 yards receiving. Teams now know if they take away the 50 year old slow WR, there's no one else to worry about. Either they can't get open, will run the wrong route, or just plain drop the ball. Look Andy Dalton has been in the NFL for like 13 years. And he's had very good seasons with the Bengals - like pro bowl level. He's seen more than the rookie and should be able to adapt better to the chaos that is the Panther's offense than the guy that has played 8 games so far. -
Do you watch CJ Stroud and wonder ‘what if’?
Navy_football replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah I think EB is coaching for a HC gig - a la Chudzinsky. -
Do you watch CJ Stroud and wonder ‘what if’?
Navy_football replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
And who would you put over that 7th rounder on this team? Who wouldn't you trade for Antonio Brown, Tank Dell, Nico Collins or Schultz for that matter? Just based on how they get open, go get the ball and run after the catch? -
Do you watch CJ Stroud and wonder ‘what if’?
Navy_football replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
So you're comparing Carolina's receivers to Washington's too? Because that dog won't hunt. Bryce literally has no chance most of the time because the blocking breaks down in under 2 seconds and no one can get open. The rest of the time, it's either/or. Never gets plenty of time with open receivers - and literally no one can get YAC except Blackshear and Shenault. -
I thought Reich was the master mind behind the mesh concept? When the hell are they gonna start implementing it? And I'd play Dalton next week as a sacrificial lamb to Micah. Bryce is gonna get killed if nothing changes. I mean it could ruin him for real. Maybe lose him for the season the way this oline is blocking. Run a stunt and they are lost and confused for the rest of the game.
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Do you watch CJ Stroud and wonder ‘what if’?
Navy_football replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
CJ may be better than Bryce Young in the long run, but that doesn't mean Bryce Young is a bad QB. Bryce's situation is not the same as CJ's. ANY ONE CAN SEE THAT IF YOU'RE BEING OBJECTIVE. I don't care what those guys did in the past. Right now, CJ's weapons and Oline are playing at an NFL level. Bryce Young's supporting cast are not competing at an average NFL level. He has a David Carr situation right now and hopefully they don't break him. I saw a little regression Thursday so there's cause for concern. But CJ would NOT be doing what he's doing in Houston, if he was in Carolina. No friggin way. His top 4 receiving threats (including his TE) are better than any receivers on this team. Houston's oline is performing at a much higher level than Carolina's. It's not even close. -
A whip route? Wow
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Yeah. Someone should be replaced. This ain't it.
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He hasn't looked this bad. Last 2 games he's made some really bad decisions/throws.
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An offense this bad. Let's be specific. This defense and special teams has been doing everything they can to win games. They're keeping the team in the game. But can't win if you can't score on offense.
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I agree the oline is garbage. But he's missing the easy throws and reads now. When guys are open and he's not being presured, he has to make those throws/reads. I think the constant pressure and inconsistencies with guys getting separation is causing him to press and not go through his progressions.
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Bryce has played better than this. He's getting worse. I think we broke him. Damn...
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10-9 Panthers
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I don't know. Hard to objectively evaluate Bryce because of what's around him. Maybe he could be better with average NFL-level talent at playcalling, oline and WR. I think RB is improving as Miles gets fewer reps. I think we can say with great certainty that he isn't the kind of player that can make really bad players better. Just hoping we can see if he can make winners out of average players. Panthers just have to get some first.
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It's already yours!
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Official Colts at Panthers Gameday Thread
Navy_football replied to Mage's topic in Carolina Panthers
Certainly looked that way to me. They broke him. -
Official Colts at Panthers Gameday Thread
Navy_football replied to Mage's topic in Carolina Panthers
That was funny -
Not sure. This was in response to whoever said I had salty eyes to cope - or whatever. I don't get personal and dramatic unless you get personal and dramatic.
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I didn't say you didn't watch the game. And again, just like last a couple of weeks ago, stats don't always tell the story. When you watch the game, these are very situations for these QBs. CJ could be football GOD like y'all want, but he damn sure has better protection and receivers than Bryce. Every one of his receivers and TEs would start over everyone of Carolinas. Houstons third guy would start over Carolinas #1.
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Nah I ain't salty at all. Some of y'all act like a QB is a team. He isn't. He's an important player on the TEAM. But still a player that is only as good as his support. Y'all talk like y'all never played football before. Or sat the bench with googly eyes on the starting QB in high school.
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Official Colts at Panthers Gameday Thread
Navy_football replied to Mage's topic in Carolina Panthers
3rd and 16. QB rolls out to Burns side and throws a dart for a first. -
Gotcha. So CJ is calling the play, snapping the ball to himself, blocking, throwing the ball to himself and then running it 75 yards for TDs. He's football GOD! I don't care what they did before the last weeks I've been watching them. But they've been making plays that don't get made by Carolina players. If you can't see that, it's because you don't want to - or you're not watching the game. And their oline gives football GOD time to at least set his feet before getting Hulk smashed by 3-4 defenders.
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Dang missed it watching the Panthers crap show...