SmokinwithWilly

I don't hate Bryce. I hate the narrative. And the reason I hate it is if Bryce was on another team, doing the same things with the same results, we'd all still be laughing about the stupidity of that same narrative. And part of that narrative is that you can have 4 "deep ball" passes on a drive and still be on the opponent's 19 yard line barely in the red zone. That is just beyond stupid.

I'm sure they are cheering him on and pumping sunshine. Tepper has been heavily influenced by his public image in regards to his decision making. He won't let Bryce get benched when he's a media darling. And I'm also sure every other team other than Atlanta would love for us to keep starting Bryce. 3 years of bottom of the league performance. We'd be happy as hell if we got to play Bryce every week on the Panthers with DC calling plays. This offense is a joke. I want to see Bryce do well but Im also a realist. He seems like a genuinely nice guy and overall good dude. His performance the 1st 2 years warranted a real QB competition this season, not Dalton and Plummer. Develop Bryce and whoever else too. Just be real about the situation. Bryce's development is not where it should be. He refuses to address his mechanics. He's been benched. He has yet to have 2 games back to back of franchise QB level play. There is nothing wrong with saying Bryce may still develop, but we need to start putting pieces in place if he doesn't so our season isn't lost on the arm of Andy Dalton.

Bingo. Because everything they've done to this point says they know he's not and they're working very hard to try and hide that fact.

There was one of those that had a glitch in the trade algorithm. Once you got into the 5th round, it would start offering future 1sts for pick exchange. I would trade back and grab 20 or 30 5ths and 6ths then start trading em all for future 1sts. I started doing mocks just to see how many future 1sts I could get. My best draft ever I ended up with over 40. It was funny as hell and I enjoyed it but they finally fixed it.

Ain't even all about getting old. My work boots have the knot pre tied. All I gotta do is pull em tight, flip 4 times and I'm done. 5 seconds and my shoes are tied. Don't matter if my hands are hurting that day or not. Ain't velcro yet, but I Ain't ashamed I'm getting closer.

Me too. DC has always seemed to be slow at recognizing the obvious. If this is just another example, you gotta ask yourself should Canales even be a HC right now.

Unless you get a true franchise HOF trajectory QB pick, age is really irrelevant. Worst case you get 2 contracts out of Shough, barring major i jury, if he's still the guy. How many of us would love to have a QB undoubtably worthy of a 2nd contract? Most of the time you get the 1st contract plus 2 years before the costs on the back end really start making it hard to build a playoff team. Only way around that is exceptional drafting.

I'm not even saying he's better than Bryce. I'm saying he's potentially better than Dalton and a decade younger. Dalton is done. Bring in Howell, see if he could develop into a number 2 and a potential. If Bryce remained starter and went down for half a season injured, can the guy be a potential starter if the need arises. I have no fantasies about him being the next Brady. Just hopes that he may be able to be developed. If not, send him packing. But for God's sake, stop holding onto this Dalton delusion.

Thielen I didn't mind so much because what he excels at doing is creating separation without top end speed and he was an elite route runner. I know coaches can coach to a point, but a player like AT knows the little nuances that can be passed on after practice or in game if a DB is doing something that can be exploited in game or help with somthing a younger WR isn't familiar with. They're a real time asset and that has a value as well as long as they're willing to share that knowledge.

Probably not. Do the picks that bounce of XLs hands count though? We can throw those in for free to sweeten the deal.

This is why I hated the Dalton deal last year. He wasn't good in his stint before when Bryce was benched, and we signed him to 2 years almost fully guaranteed when he already had one foot in the career grave and the other on a banana peel. I'm still of the mind that they decided to sign the 5th year last season and signed Dalton to keep Young comfortable until he was finished with at least year 4. I'm going to laugh like hell though when they extend Dalton another year after they announce Bryce's 5th year option. They'll call it a restructuring for cap relief but we'll know what it really is. Keep that QB room competition free.

Now if we could package XL and 19 to move up to 11, I'd be all for that. Heck, I'm sure we've got a copy of Hurney's notes on how not to bust on your 1st round pick in a desk somewhere to include in the deal.

Wonder what the Vegas odds were on the first TD of the game being a pick 6 by Darnold.

19 to 11 won't be cheap and frankly we still have too many holes to go trading up. We're going to need out 2nd and 3rd rounders.

Huge QB contracts really hurt the team in the long run. Hard to build a complete team when so much cap is tied up in one spot. Brady kept his cap hit lower so other players could be brought in. Granted he was compensated in other ways. The QB contracts are almost what the rookie contracts used to be, a weight around the neck of the team that drag you down.

I'm not a Geno fan, but LV had the worst Oline I've seen in a long time. Jeanty had a little over 800 of his 975 yards after contact. That's insanely bad blocking. I don't want Geno here, but I can't fault anyone for looking like complete ass behind that poo show.

We could have built a good team with Fitt. Just do the opposite of whatever he wanted to do.

Their offensive line got owned tonight. That made all the difference.

Lol. Seahawks fans are a special breed of asshole. Never met a group that deserved to be punched in the taint repeatedly more, except maybe Bruins fans.

I live in the PNW. I'm going to have to hear about this nonstop for the next 4 months.

Happy for Sam. Who would have thought he ends up as a SB champion after having Adam Gase and Matt Rhule as his first 2 head coaches.

They're not letting him do what he does. Why on earth you stop running him once you get to the SB is beyond me.

He's got Mike Shula in his ear helping call plays.

Concussion specialist following him. He'll be back with 2 minutes to go.

JSN headed down the tunnel. Not good.