SmokinwithWilly

Some of my jersey's came from Marshall's. Got my Steven Davis, Mills and Smitty jerseys all for under 20 bucks each.

I think people are just tired of damn near everything Fitts does going wrong. No faith that this will go right either, no matter if it's a trade or a deal. We're going to get fugged either way.

That's why I said Fitts and Tepper are the issue. It's just what I would have done playing Monday morning GM. Either embrace the rebuild or don't, but we were never drop a QB in and playoff run ready. That's the frustrating part. This entire FO seems to be blind to basic things even guys on a message board are seeing.

Most of the guys like me who think we should have traded him last year realized then that we should have been going into full rebuild mode. I said it then, those 1sts could have been valuable in trying to trade for the 1st pick if we had chosen to do so. We wouldn't have needed to ship off DJ. We could have shipped off a Rams 2025 1st instead. Burns is gonna get paid. That's pretty much a done deal, or at least should be. Do I think he's worth 30m per season as an edge rusher that's a liability against the run? No. But what I think doesn't really matter. Personally, if I'm being honest, Luvu has been more of a defensive force than Burns going back to last year. Tepper and this FO have been shitting the bed for the past few seasons and we have very little to show for it. Picks, like players, are a commodity and they all have value. Do I think we could have done more with 2 1sts, a 2nd and 30m in cap space and a competent front office? Absolutely. Too bad we lack the latter.

If only anyone could have predicted the Rams would be in bad shape and those picks could be really good...

Still won the week.

This is why you don't give big contracts to RBs behind the best oline in football. It's fools gold.

Said it a few weeks ago and got poo'd for it. Luvu just makes more plays on the field.

Pass blocking wasn't his strength going into the draft. He was a run mauler that was going to need to learn to pass block at the pro level. Offensive philosophy has changed from power run to complex blocking schemes. Setting up failure

Icky was the least pass pro ready LT of the top 3 in the draft. He's struggling. Why is this a shock? Cross was the most pass pro ready but we went for the most athletic mauler. This isn't that surprising.

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A lot.

I'm starting CJ and Pierce in fantasy this week. Too juicy a match up to pass up.

Actually we should probably start with someone as a team president before letting Tepper hire another coach.

I'm not for firing him either. We made that mistake last year. We aren't winning the division. We may not win a game. Take our lumps, get the 33rd pick, chalk it up to another Tepper FUBAR, and go get Ben Johnson.

0-6 and we're grasping at straws

It's been a long day and my numbers for the 9ers were off by a year for draft position, I own that. but the overall premise is still valid. The corrected numbers are 1200 in 21, 800 and 640 for a total of 2640. Minus the 1350 we paid with our 9 leaves 1290 remaining or a 10th spot value. So we would need to finish 10th this year to break even with the 9ers 3 1sts offer.

Actually it's not. SF gave up the 21st(800) in 21, 29th(640) in 22, and 23" is YTD but lets give it a value of 24th(740), for a total of 2180 according to the trade value chart. Unless something drastically changes, the Panthers will end up with a top 3 pick, the lowest of which is valued at 2200. Take out the 9th we already gave up, value 1350, and we need to finish no worse than 20th best team in the league to break even with the SF trade for Lance and that doesn't include the 2 2nds or DJ Moore we sent or the 22' 3rd they sent. While the trade value chart isn't perfect, it does provide some perspective on the value of picks. But to say that the 49ers 3 1sts hold more value than our 2 1sts isn't accurate.

If we look much improved on offense, it's going to be hard to fire Frank, only because I think it would be a lot to ask to take over as HC and still be OC/DC depending who was promoted. End of season, yeah. Move on. If it's a blowout, still gotta keep Frank and try to get the highest 2nd round pick we can by letting him run this train off a bridge. We're going to need all the help we can get. Won't make Chicago picking at 1 any better though.

We had in our possession a 23' 1st round pick (9) and a 24' 1st round pick. Now we don't. Where did they go? We had to give away our rights to them in order to acquire the rights to Chicago's pick 1. Call it an exchange or a swap or whatever you want. Saying that we gave up our rights to our 23' 1st round pick as part of a package to acquire pick 1 is 100% factually correct.

Wrong. The trade wasn't only draft picks AND you got the picks wrong. We "exchanged" pick 9, 2024 1st, pick 61 and a 2025 2nd PLUS DJ Moore. That's 5 total assets traded to acquire a single player, Bryce Young. The Bears could have drafted him at 1 and then made the trade, it wouldn't have changed the outcome. 1 player for 5 assets. If we ended up trading BY for a bag of Skittles at some future point, then all we would have netted is a bag of Skittles for all those assets. What the front office has said publicly, and what their actions have confirmed all offseason, is this was never a full scale rebuild. This was plugging a QB in as the missing piece, for the 5th time in 4 years.

We traded all that away in exchange for BY and DJ Johnson. Where they were picked is irrelevant. That's what we got for all those assets. Those 2 players, one who needs to be a unicorn at QB to be successful for his cost and the other a converted TE edge rusher project in his prime that can't get on the field on Sunday. Fitts said repeatedly they were trying to contend for the division. This was never a rebuild. This was drop Bryce into a system built by on offensive guru and watch the wins rain from the sky. Most fans always had reasonable expectations, but Tepper and the FO never did. It's always been win now for them. This is the result of being impatient.

Trading CMC, DJ, 2 1sts, 2 2nds, for BY and DJ Johnson is absolutely expecting to win the division. There's no way you give up all those assets for those 2 players and realistically expect to land another top 10 pick. No fugging way.

Gets you right in the feels. Feel blessed that he was a part of this organization and that the Saints and Panthers put rivalry aside to get him into the Hall of Fame.

That would be a great trade for us.