SmokinwithWilly

We traded all that away in exchange for BY and DJ Johnson. Where they were picked is irrelevant. That's what we got for all those assets. Those 2 players, one who needs to be a unicorn at QB to be successful for his cost and the other a converted TE edge rusher project in his prime that can't get on the field on Sunday. Fitts said repeatedly they were trying to contend for the division. This was never a rebuild. This was drop Bryce into a system built by on offensive guru and watch the wins rain from the sky. Most fans always had reasonable expectations, but Tepper and the FO never did. It's always been win now for them. This is the result of being impatient.

Trading CMC, DJ, 2 1sts, 2 2nds, for BY and DJ Johnson is absolutely expecting to win the division. There's no way you give up all those assets for those 2 players and realistically expect to land another top 10 pick. No fugging way.

Gets you right in the feels. Feel blessed that he was a part of this organization and that the Saints and Panthers put rivalry aside to get him into the Hall of Fame.

That would be a great trade for us.

Never underestimate the level of fugtardery this leadership group can achieve.

TMJ straight up trade. So damn good he didn’t even register.

We were out the second he said he wanted stable management. This franchise is pretty much the epitome of dysfunctional.

The rumor was Hopkins didn't want to play with a rookie QB and only wanted to go to a team that would be in contention. Carolina is definitely neither of those things. We could trade for Nuke, but would he even want to be here? We didn't want him when he was free (no picks). Why trade for him now?

It was pretty straightforward headed towards the trade deadline. No one should ever believe that Sam Darnold was leading this team to a deep playoff run. Could we have made the playoffs in one of the worst divisions in NFL history? Sure. Would we be a legitimate contender? Hell no. This team needed to embrace the rebuild. We needed a QB. There was no question about that. Having 5 1sts and 4 2nds over the next 3 years would have been a substantial war chest to go and acquire one in Jackson or trade up for one if that was the route, which it ultimately was, or even to stay firm and take the best pick available. We now lack picks to build around our QB, are devoid of a lot of talent, and have tried to drop a new generation QB into an older generation offense. It's a match made in hell.

I wasn't sure if he was or wasn't the problem. With Rhule being given complete control, there was no way to really tell. I knew we could be in real trouble after rejecting the Burns trade. My suspicions were confirmed on day 2 of the draft we were in trouble. He made the same overreaction panic trade up to acquire a project player that he did when he moved up for MC. May not seem like a huge thing in the grand scheme, but he doesn't seem to have a very good feel for player values and keeping his cool when things don't fall the way you plan.

At this point he needs to be let go and no more trades until the offseason. Anything he does right now is just an attempt to save his job and that's not the way these decisions need to be made.

The huddle has been right more than Scott Fitterer.

I swear that pic reminded me of Alice.

Heard on the game today that Allen has never gone more than 2 games without a turnover. Hard to believe a QB of his caliber turns it over so much.

Hopefully more misdirection, motion and scheming to get receivers open. More use of Chubba as a pounding back. At 0-6, take the reigns off. At this point we have nothing more to lose than games, and losing it what this team has done best so far. I have a feeling though if we do so any of these things, Reich will step back in and enforce his old school offense because it's out of his comfort zone.

Between the draft picks, injury history, salary cap, and considering we weren't just a QB away, I didn't think it was a good idea. Our problems are so much bigger than just QB at this point. We all have different approaches to building teams. I'm not sure just dropping LJ into this poo show would have resulted in much of a difference between BY. This team is one gigantic steaming pile that starts in the owners box.

Creating seperation has always been his thing. He works hard at getting open. It's not all about speed. It's also about not tipping your hand with body language how you're going to move.

Author Smith game planning 101. Makes no fuging sense at all. Trade Miles, Hurst and TMJ for Pitts, Bijan and London.

Imagine drafting a WR, TE, and RB in the first round the past 3 years and them having 5 combined touches.

Not exactly true. All the Ravens had to do was match the contract offer and it was done. No team was going to do all that negotiating on behalf of the Ravens. The 2 firsts were only if they chose not to match the offer. If a team wanted Lamar, they were going to have to pay the asking price in picks the Ravens wanted.

Rumors were 3 1sts, at least 2 2nds plus the contract price. As bad as Fitts has been with picks, they should have made the trade. I admit, I was vehemently against it because of the estimated cost, but I severely underestimated the stupidity of this FO and incompetence of this coach staff with assembling a team. Of course, Frank would have turned Lamar into Ryan Leaf, but I digress. For the extra 40m a season, Lamar would have made the most sense.

I am positive Zod got liquored up last night and forgot what week it was.

Tell me you've been drinking without telling me you've been drinking.

I have a sick feeling Kedarious Toney is coming to Carolina.

Hire Scott Fitterer again just so I could get the one to fire him