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Best for the team this season or best for the team in general? Sure AT might be better for us winning games this season (maybe he helps us get 1 extra win over the course of a season...), but is that really what's best for the team? The picks are whatever but evaluating and developing young players would be my number 1 priority this year, young WR included. And Thielen getting targets over the young guys could jeopardize that. I'd have been fine keeping him too, I don't think it's a huge deal either way.

Maybe but I don't think he'd much of an upgrade, frankly. He's clearly lost a significant step. Again, I was not advocating for the trade, I'd rather have just kept him. But I hardly think he'd be changing the equation much here. Coker's injury sucked but if we kept AT and that led to less opportunity for Coker throughout the season that would be worse than where we're at now. Need to see what we have in the young guys, XL included. I think XL is a massive bust but better to give him reps the rest of the year and be sure than give up this soon. Tet and Coker should be the top 2 WRs in targets though once Coker is back. Tet obviously is the top dog and deserves to be, he's a bonafide stud that much is already clear.

Coker being out is a HUGE loss. Once he’s back our WR group will look much better. He was easily our best receiver last year and it wasn’t close. Tet looks the part and frankly with an actual QB all our WRs would look better than they do with Bryce, even XL

I was never an advocate for trading AT but does he even have a catch for the Vikings? Lol

Discussed at length when last year’s inductees were announced but yeah Luke not being 1st ballot is a travesty. Smitty should’ve been 1st ballot too frankly but his personality certainly has been factoring in. A lot of people don’t like the guy.

Smitty’s career numbers to me are the 2nd most bonkers in NFL history among wideouts behind only Rice. He put up what he did on run-first offenses his entire career with mostly below average QBing. Most the other guys in the top 10 had elite QBs and all of them were in several pass-first offenses

it's brett

He's a top 5 corner when he's on the field. Hopefully he stays healthy. Him and Brown are solid cornerstone D guys, just need to build around them

When teams suck people often make comments like "I'd take Alabama by 10 over the Panthers" and I get it, it's fun to mock and make fun of shitty teams. But for the people out there who do truly believe things like that, they are just incredibly delusional. #32 team in the NFL would easily win against the best college team by at least 50 points, probably more. The #32 NFL team would even beat a college all star team with relative ease.

Yeah defense was incredible, not that surprising with Penix playing terrible but we also completely bottled up Bijan which was a shocker to me and a great sign. The D still has several holes, I HATE the 3-4 and don't think Evero is any good -- BUT Brown and Horn are both legit superstar caliber players and now we're seeing some of the young guys' potential which is definitely encouraging. Also, aside from Etienne's fumble, our ST was absolutely lights out. Fitz perfect on XP/FGs of course but also our kickoffs were amazing -- both his placement on the kicks and our coverage getting there.

Sadly 5.4 is Bryce’s normal

Yep fug that dude and the bucs

Fitz looks good

He’s just awful. The garbage time last week and a win today will have more of the clowns out supporting him but he’s a terrible football player and needs to be gone asap

Yeah Smitty was like 5’9 and excelled at this. I don’t mean high jump balls but contested throws in general.

Manning had a hell of an arm. Bryce looks like he's putting everything his body has to offer into throws that go 15 yards through the air. And the height matters, as others have mentioned dude is jumping on half his throws.

Yeah, and the thing is I completely agree with you about letting QBs develop and sit and learn and I've been a huge advocate for doing that deliberately and being patient while ignoring the pressure to start a young rookie. I think the best way forward at the QB position is to get a somewhat established fringe or mid-tier starter vet in FA or trade and stick with him while drafting a QB relatively high and having him sit a year or even two. The Packers, and Chiefs method. But all that said, there are very very few examples of QBs who struggled in both their first 2 seasons who became legit franchise QBs. Guys like Darnold and Geno Smith are breaking that mold a tiny little bit, although jury is very much out on whether those guys are actual "franchise QBs" or guys who would be capable of winning a SB even in a great situation. But historically and even recent history suggests that if a QB doesn't look the part within his first 2 full seasons of starting then it isn't going to happen and you should just move on. And Bryce now very clearly has not looked the part into his 3rd season, and with a ton of investment on offense and a "QB guru" coaching staff. The excuses have completely dried up with him. It sucks but it's the reality Bryce fans need to accept at this point. I don't know why teams who have been searching for their QB forever keep sticking with mediocrity for way too long. If they haven't shown franchise QB level by year 3, move on and rinse and repeat and draft another guy. Keep doing it until someone sticks. The other reality is that coaching and front office matter more in the big picture than who your QB is at that moment. Just look at the success Andy Reid had with Alex friggin Smith as his QB in KC before Mahomes showed up and the Eagles the last decade or so. The sole focus from Tepper should be on building out a steady and consistent top tier front office (who then hires coaching staff) who has a clear vision and plan for the team, including the future at the QB position. Not being hands on meeting with guys like Bryce and CJ before the draft and having dinners with their families, etc. I digress

There are very very very few silver linings on this team, and it's really just a handful of players. I have zero trust or confidence in any member of the front office or coaching staff, frankly.

Tet with Jameis puts up 1400 yards

I was done with him the moment his hiring was announced. Completely bonkers decision to promote someone from the Fitterer front office. Everyone involved with any of those decisions under Fitterer should've been canned along with him for a complete overhaul of the room. Tepper is such a clown

He’s a joke and a terrible hire yet again from Tepper but I think he will get a chance next year with a QB he handpicks. Vet or rookie. But leash will be short next year

More than benched lol, just cut his ass. Probably the worst WR this team has ever drafted.

lol he runs right into the defender on 4th down to take a sack

Yeah that is obviously grounding. Bryce is fine during garbage time but now in meaningless snaps back to being by far the worst QB in the league

Roiughing the passer WTF somebody on this ref squad must have a ton of money on the Panthers