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PFR puts together a pretty solid hall of fame "monitor" and the one for TE matches my view on Greg pretty closely: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_TE.htm First back to back 1000 yards is a cool milestone but not HOF worthy. He had a stretch of 5 solid-great years but with just 2 2nd team All Pro nods in that timeframe. Rest of his career outside those 5 years doesn't move the needle. If he didn't have the foot issues late in his career here and extended those 5 years to like 8 then I think he'd have a better case. But without much personal hardware, no significant career stat milestones and no team hardware I just don't really see him getting in. Would love it for him if he did, he's one of my favorite all time Panthers (obviously).

Luke and Smitty should both get in (both should already be in, but here we are). Peanut and Greg, to me, are both Hall of Very Good players, not HOFers.

Yeah of course. And I'm not expecting the next Luke or TD, but getting a Shaq caliber player in the last few years shouldn't have been so hard. We've tried with guys who wind up just sucking ass. I'd take just passable, but it's hard to fathom how bad ours have been lately.

Off ball LB is such a massive weakness though, so unlike historical Panthers teams which have always had great LBs. Secondary has been solid and pass rush/run D from DL/off ball LB a nice surprise so far, but man we need to upgrade that 2nd level badly. Also I still don't like Evero or his 3-4 lol

The D has been a pleasant surprise and I give them credit for a huge improvement over last year but linville (who I often disagree with) absolutely has a point here. Falcons are not a top 5 offense lol, they are bottom 5 by scoring offense and Penix played his worst game of the year against us. Cowboys are good but we allowed 27, not horrible like last year we'd have allowed 40+, but still not great. Dolphins got 24, pats got 42 on us, Jags 26. Our overall stats are skewed by the Atlanta shutout and playing the Jets' awful offense. Don't get me wrong, I've been impressed by the D, largely Horn/Brown and the rookies, but it's been a pretty easy schedule and they still haven't been outstanding. Just solid.

6.24ypa He's been better than pre-benching obviously, but not by a whole lot and he still needs to be replaced this offseason.

Kinda but our good seasons we'd pretty routinely blow out the worst teams in the league

We somehow have a winning record lol

Jaycee!!!!

D sucks on 3rd dwn

Scourton is a hell of a player

Rico should be clear starter getting bulk of snaps and carries every series. Stupid to rotate them

I think Coker will actually make an impact, not as much of one as he should to your point on us not throwing much, but I do think he’ll help the offense considerably.

The Bills are not contenders. They should still win the division as the patriots are total pretenders and the other 2 suck but Bills are likely 1 and done in the playoffs. Wonder if McD will be on the hot seat at some point

lol no it was not at all it was completely fine for a highly drafted rookie LT, most take time to adjust

He was NEVER at any point looking like a bust lmao

Not referring to raw numbers but watching them play. Rico breaking tackles left and right, making great cuts and finding holes that other backs wouldnt find. He’s just been stellar. Not even knocking Chuba

Unbelievable we couldn’t recover that fumble. Damn

Lol man I know you’re high on Chuba and he does other things like pass pro well, but he has never in his entire career been even close to Dowdle’s level as a runner last week and this week.

Evero needs to be fired for not adjusting for Pickens

God this reffing is despicable. fuging cowcheats

I like Chuba but even once he comes back Dowdle has to remain RB1 as long as he’s playing like this

Does Renfrow do anything at all that makes him worthy of a roster spot, let alone playing time?

Earlier on this drive it was completely egregious that the refs called a 5 yard hold on the D instead of a spot foul PI when that was obviously what it should’ve been.

Lmao Legette is a dumbass